**UPDATED 12/20/12 MORE TO COME** Since there have been so many concerns on my mind lately that I have been writing about on my blog, I haven’t had the time to even think about writing a Christmas poem for this year.  So if you’d like, you can read the following Christmas poems I wrote over the past few years. 

God bless you, and thank you very much for taking time out of your busy day to read some of my posts and poems.

~Mary Dalke/Living4HisGlory

2009-BEYOND THE MANGER TO THE CROSS

2010-FOR GOD SO LOVED…HE GAVE

2011-CHRISTMAS, HOLDING ON TO HOPE

I may be adding more information to this post in the near future, but for now I believe there’s enough information here to help you to ‘connect the dots,’ so-to-speak, and will help you to begin to grasp what is happening in many of our churches today.

INTRODUCTION

Do you find alarming changes taking place within your church?  Have you tried to express your concerns to the leadership in your church only to be told you are being ‘divisive’ or ‘ungrateful?’  Have your concerns been dismissed, and have those in leadership twisted your words of concern to cause you to doubt your ability to discern?  Have you been told to leave if you do not agree with the ‘vision’ that ‘God’ has given to your pastor?  Well, it’s very possible that your church is in the process of becoming a ‘Purpose Driven’ church without you even realizing it.

As I was searching for information to finish writing my post on the reality of ‘mysticism entering the church,’ I came upon the following information that I have seen before in my search to try and figure out what was happening at my former church, Harvest Bible Chapel Rolling Meadows.  I am putting aside finishing my post on ‘mysticism’ for awhile, because I think that those of you who are hurt and confused by what you see taking place in your church may find this information insightful and helpful, though extremely alarming at the same time.  Please pray for discernment and wisdom before watching the videos below and before you read the information at the links below, and seek God in prayer, and especially in His Word, as to what He would have you to do.

**ADDED 12/17/12** CHURCH OF TARES: PURPOSE DRIVEN, SEEKER SENSITIVE, CHURCH GROWTH, AND NEW WORLD ORDER

In the following video, Bob Klenck, a Christian, and an orthopedic surgeon, explains the ‘Hegelian Dialectic Process,’ and how this process is often used in small groups through peer pressure, to gradually lead you away from your solid Christian beliefs based on Biblical truth, by being conditioned to accept a compromise, rather than be alienated from the group.

**ADDED 12/12/12** CLICK HERE TO READ>> BOB KLENCK- WHAT’S WRONG WITH THE 21st CENTURY CHURCH? PART 1 OF 3

CLICK HERE TO READ>>CREATING COMMUNITYPURPOSE DRIVEN CHANGE THROUGH TRANSFORMATIONAL LEADERSHIPBY BERIT KJOS

‘TRADING BIBLICAL UNITY FOR A MORE INCLUSIVE VISION OF ONENESS’

In this article at the link above, I was shocked at the similarities of some of the ‘seven principles of transformational leadership’ — which is posted on Rick Warren’s website, and I have also posted for you below — to what I observed during the last couple of years that I attended Harvest Bible Chapel Rolling Meadows: [My notes are in brackets and black ink.  Author’s notes are in brackets and purple ink.]

“1)Principle of Simplification – Successful leadership begins with a vision, which reflects the shared purpose.  The ability to articulate a clear, practical, transformational vision which answers the question,  “Where are we headed?”  [During ‘Vision Night’ on October 5th 2011, we at Harvest Bible Chapel were presented with that ‘vision’ of where we were headed.]

“2)Principle of Motivation – The ability to gain the agreement and commitment of other people to the vision…A common way to motivate others is to challenge them, provide ample opportunity to join the creative process and give them the credit.”  [Author’s note: Not God?]”

“3) Principle of Facilitation – The ability to effectively facilitate the learning of individuals, teams…Peter Senge in Fifth Discipline says the primary job of leadership now is to facilitate the learning of others”

“4) Principle of Innovation – The ability to boldly initiate prayerful change when needed…Team members successfully influence one another to assimilate change because the transformational leaders have built trust and fostered teamwork.”

“5) Principle of Mobilization – The ability to enlist, equip and empower others to fulfill the vision.  Transformational leaders …desire leadership at all levels, so they find ways to invite and ignite leadership at all levels.  They introduce baby steps to enlist larger participants.”  [Author’s note: That’s what 40 Days of Purpose is: “Baby steps” toward the new solidarity.  40 days of Community is simply the next higher level in this process.] 

“6) Principle of Preparation – The ability to never stop learning about themselves…Rick Warren says,  ‘Leaders are learners.’  …This is such a rigorous path of learning that transformational leaders must be in thriving relationships with others pursuing transformation.  It is within these vital relationships, life opportunities and obstacles get saturated in love and support.  [Author’s note: “Keep in mind this “promise of love and support” applies whether the group forms under a secular or Christian banner.  Facilitated togetherness, not the Holy Spirit, is the glue that creates success.”] 

“7) Principle of Determination – The ability to finish the race…Transformational leaders have to develop, spiritual, emotional, and physical disciplines to sustain their high level of commitment to their cause.” 

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Also, I encourage you to read Chris Rosebrough’s ‘RESISTANCE IS FUTILE’ You Will Be Assimilated Into the Community PDF   He also has some very revealing information for all of us who see a shift from Biblical truth taking place within our churches.  Here are some points that stood out to me:

ON PAGE 5 ‘WHAT ARE THEY THINKING?’

Point 1 – “Mega-church pastors in the Seeker-Driven movement berate Christians for coming to church with the expectation to be fed the Word of God.”

Point 2 – “These same pastors claim that their churches exist for non-believers and the people who are not there.”

Point 3 – “These same pastors are aggressively anti-doctrinal.”

Point 4 –They claim their churches are Communities of small groups.”  [Do you attend a church where there is an overpowering insistence on joining a small group?  This information may help you understand why.]

ON PAGE 6 ‘WHAT ARE THEY THINKING?’

Point 1 – They are openly pushing for unity in the visible church with men who are Word of Faith Heretics and/or Modalists.”  [Three words came to mind when I read this –Elephant Room Conference.]

Point 3 – “Their leaders have zero accountability to the people in their congregation. But, the people are accountable to the leaders for accomplishing the vision that they cast.”  [This clearly would explain what is happening at Harvest Bible Chapel…(Will add more thoughts here at a later time).

Earlier today (12/16/12) I discovered that Chris Rosebrough has a new YouTube channel, and he posted much of this information in the following video:

There once was a time when Mark Driscoll preached a Biblical view of church leadership and church discipline.  In the following video, you will hear him say:

“Churches need to have real elders.  And those elders need to be able to discipline even the senior leader.  And there needs to be in the bylaws clear process by which the senior leader is brought to discipline.  The way this works is I can get fired by the elders.  If they vote- I’m fired.  I have one vote on the elder board.  And if they’re voting about me I don’t have any vote.  Ah..every few years when we have as an executive elder team and there are nominations and elections for, and they can vote for me not to be one of the executive elders in the church.  And so the lead pastor — some churches call the senior pastor —  but that’s Jesus in 1 Peter  5 — needs to be the one who sets the example of coming under spiritual authority, being able to be disciplined, being able to be fired, being held accountable in all ways.  And if not, there will be no ability to have partiality..ah.. impartiality and and no acts of favoritism.  ‘Cuz everybody is partial.  (Creator of this video-ReallySad1, then repeats Mark Driscoll’s words to emphasize this point…)  And those elders need to be able to discipline even the senior leader.   And there needs to be in the bylaws clear process by which the senior leader is brought to discipline.  And so the lead pastor — some churches call the senior pastor — but that’s Jesus in 1 Peter 5 — needs to be the one who sets the example of coming under spiritual authority, being able to be disciplined, being able to be fired, being held accountable in all…”

MARK DRISCOLLWHO CAN FIRE THE PASTOR

Now please click here  and pray for discernment before you listen to what Mark Driscoll had to say in October of 2007 to a group of Acts 29 church planting leaders, (I also posted this on my WARNING YOU WITH TEARS  post) as well as what other pastors had to say concerning their ‘visions,’ and test what is said against Scripture to see if this all lines up with Biblical truth and Biblical church leadership.  I pray you will find what is said — as well as how it is said — as disturbing as I, and many other people have found it to be!

**ADDED 7:37p.m. 12/16/12** Just found this video filled with good information (except for the breaks where they promote Lutheran doctrine) and you can again hear Mark Driscoll,(@45:33)  James MacDonald (@43:11), and others, express what their intentions are towards those who oppose their visions, and those who are considered to be divisive.

IS VISION CASTING BIBLICAL?

So what is happening?  What has happened to Mark Driscoll,  that he went from having a solid Biblical understanding of church leadership and church discipline, to now speaking in such a way that, at times, the love of Christ cannot even be heard in his words, but only evil?  And what is happening to so many others in church leadership today that has caused them to seemingly take matters into their own hands concerning the direction their church should be going in, that is causing them to “aggressively defend” their ‘visions?’  Why are so many in ministry today becoming so controlling, instead of being controlled and led by the Holy Spirit?  Where are the fruits of the Spirit in their lives?

“But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, goodness, and self-control.”  (Galatians 5:22,23)

Jesus also warned us about the fruits of false prophets:

“Watch out for false prophets.  They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.  By their fruits you will recognize them.  Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?  Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.  A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit.   Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.  Thus by their fruit you will recognize them.  Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven.  Many will say to Me on that day,  ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’  Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you.’  Away from Me you evildoers!’ ” (Matthew 7:15-23)

Why does there seem to be such dominance by many pastors over the people in their churches, instead of  being  loving shepherds to their flock? Why have so many pastors shifted from expository preaching to using humor and ‘coarse joking’?

“Be imitators of God, therefore, as dearly loved children and live a life of love, just as Christ loved us and gave Himself up for us as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.  But among you there must not even be a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people.  Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving.  For of this you can be sure:  No immoral, impure or greedy person–such a man is an idolater–has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.  Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God’s wrath comes on those who are disobedient.  Therefore, do not be partners with them.  For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord.  Live as children of light (for the fruit of the light consists in all goodness, righteousness and truth) and find out what pleases the Lord. Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.”               (Ephesians 5:11)

Has it come to preaching what is ‘relevant’ instead of focusing on and preaching Biblical truth and exposing sin and preaching repentance and the gospel of God’s mercy and grace?  Is it ‘all about the numbers’ of those in attendance at our churches?  Has it become ‘The church with the most in attendance wins,’ type of mentality?  Have we forgotten that it’s ‘God  who gives the increase’ (1 Corinthians 3:7) and not our man-made strategies and entertainment based presentations?

Why is it that so many of us today feel intimidated by our pastors and those in church leadership?  Why are we allowing our voices to  be silenced?   Why are we giving some who are in leadership positions the power to cause us to doubt the discernment that God has given to us?  We are made to feel that ‘to question or challenge their vision is to question God.’  We must remember that God warns us in His Word that we are to be as the Bereans and ‘examine the Scriptures daily to see if what is being said (and done, by those who claim to speak God’s Word) is true.’  (Acts 17:11)

Please wake up!  And as God’s Word clearly shows us, look to Jesus Christ and to Him alone, so that you will not be led astray or become discouraged:

“Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles, and let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us.  Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy set before Him endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.  Consider Him who endured such opposition from sinful men, so that you will not grow weary and lose heart.”  (Hebrews 12:1-3)

LET’S CONTINUE:

ON PAGE 15 ‘COUNTER-ENLIGHTENMENT’

“The Individual DOES NOT EXIST.” [This may explain to some of us, why none of our valid concerns matter when we express them to the elders and/or pastors.]

Is this what’s really happening?  Are many of our churches slowly being transformed into ‘Purpose Driven’ churches?  Or is it merely a coincidence that many of these steps that are being implemented in churches that are patterned after Rick Warren’s ‘Purpose Driven’ plan parallels in many ways what many of us are witnessing taking place in our churches?  After reading through all the information and listening to the videos, please pray, test things in light of Scripture,  and you decide.

**UPDATE 12/18/12 ** Computer problem has been resolved!  For now this post is finished, but will be adding to some of my thoughts when time allows, and may be adding more information within the next few days.

NOTE: (NOVEMBER 26, 2012)  This post is far from finished, but I have been having major problems with my computer freezing up over the past couple of days, and lost two attempts at replying to a comment on one of my posts. So to make certain that I do not lose the information I have thus far, I will be publishing it now and adding more information during the day today and over this coming week.  (Grrrr!  Modern technology)!  So consider following along with me as I continue to reveal more information to make my valid concerns known to all of you, and to make you realize just how very important it is for us to be like the Bereans by ‘examining the Scriptures daily to see if what is being said (and done by those who claim to speak for God) is true.’  (Acts 17:11)

RECOMMENDED BOOKS TO READ:

WARREN B SMITH – ‘DECEIVED ON PURPOSE’ -Warnings about the serious New Age implications of Rick Warren’s book,’The Purpose Driven Life.’

ROGER OAKLAND – ‘FAITH UNDONE’ – The Emerging Church – A new reformation or an end time deception.

12/12/12 LORD WILLING, COMING SOON:

A POEM IDEA REQUESTED BY READER, C. CURTIS, ENTITLED – ‘OUT OF THE DARKNESS AND INTO THE LIGHT’

A POST CONCERNING ‘MYSTICISM IN THE CHURCH’

LORD WILLING, BY EASTER – ‘MY TESTIMONY: FROM FEAR AND UNCERTAINTY TO PEACE AND ASSURANCE – HOW GOD REVEALED THE TRUTH TO ME BY READING A CATHOLIC NEW TESTAMENT BIBLE’

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