In the search for choosing Christian teachers to build up the body of Christ (Ephesians 4:11-15) it seems that some Christian leaders at Harvest Bible Chapel Rolling Meadows are among the many today who have forgotten the importance of Biblical discernment. Some may believe that since a person is a professing Christian and a gifted and popular speaker and Bible teacher, as well, that their words and teachings must then be trustworthy.  But what happened to Biblical discernment and the commands in Scripture that we are to test the words of men — and women — in light of Scripture?  (Acts 17:11) Have pastors forgotten their important roles to be shepherds who are to watch over their sheep and how Scripture warns that they are to ‘keep watch over themselves and their flock,’ and that Scripture says that ‘even from our own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them,’ and how we are to ‘be on guard?’  (Acts 20)

Some of those questions — and more — came to mind when, on Sunday, March 9th, 2014, I saw on Harvest Bible Chapel Rolling Meadows weekly sermon’ page that they were informing women that a new DVD series by Priscilla Shirer entitled GIDEON: YOUR WEAKNESS GOD’S STRENGTH would be starting soon, as you can see from the ‘screen capture’ below:

Capture HBC NEW WOMEN'S SMALL GROUP

Great title, for sure!  But this is the question that all of us need to answer: Does everything she teach line up with Scripture?  Well, since the reason for writing this post is to warn those at Harvest Bible Chapel (as well as others) about Bible teacher, author, and speaker, Priscilla Shirer, the answer to that question is: No.

In the past I have read some posts written about Priscilla Shirer warning about some of the unbiblical things she teaches, as well as some of the false teachers she associates with, but I couldn’t quite remember all the details, so I decided to do my own investigation by listening to some of her videos so I could then share with you what I found after testing what she said against Scripture. (Acts 17:11)

One thing I learned about her that I wasn’t aware of before, is that her father is Christian Pastor, speaker, and author, Dr. Tony Evans, who also has a radio program on Moody radio.  I also discovered that she was one of the  speakers at Moody’s Founders Week this past February 2014, and that she preached from Chapter 6 of Deuteronomy to a large group of women –and men.  (Hmmm. Doesn’t God’s Word say in 1 Timothy 3:14,15, and 2:11-15 that a woman is not to be put in a position of teaching men?)  Please consider taking some time to listen to the videos I posted below, and think carefully about what she is saying in light of Scripture and see what conclusions you come to.  Yes, she presents herself very well, and holds her audience’s attention, but does she focus on the truth recorded in Scripture?  Or does she — at times — share with her predominantly Christian audience something entirely different –and even unbiblical?

First of all, if any of you are not aware of what Contemplative/Centering Prayer is, I would like to ask you to please take the time to read this excellent article written by Pastor Gary Gilley of Southern View Chapel, so that you are aware of what to look for when you listen to Priscilla Shirer and others (such as Beth Moore) who, in different degrees, promote this unbiblical method of  so-called ‘prayer’ that teaches you ‘how to hear ‘God’ speak to you’:

PASTOR GARY GILLEY – CONTEMPLATIVE PRAYER

 

Priscilla Shirer on Gideon

 

Priscilla Shirer Discusses the 5 Ps of Bible Study.mov

 

He Speaks To Me In this video Priscilla says,  “He Speaks To Me’ is about preparing ourselves, positioning ourselves to hear the voice of our Savior.”

 

Speak Lord

 

Priscilla Shirer – Founders Week 2014

 

Priscilla Shirer announcing being at Joel Osteen’s Lakewood Church along with Beth Moore and Christine Caine

 

Priscilla Shirer with Joyce Meyer

 

An example of Joyce Meyer‘s False Teachings

 

‘Stewarding the Presence’ – Priscilla Shirer at Brian Houston‘s Hillsong Conference 2011

 

Chris Rosebrough Sermon Reviews — Warning people about the dangers of Brian Houston:

FIGHTING FOR THE FAITH: BEREAN ADVISORY: BRIAN HOUSTON

 

Priscilla Shirer – along with Beth Moore (another teacher that is highly promoted at Harvest Bible Chapel, and many other churches, as well) and many others — made a DVD entitled, BE STILL,’ in which the main message is ‘how to hear from God.’

Time With God – Excerpt from the DVD ‘Be Still’

INFORMATION CONCERNING ‘CONTEMPLATIVE PRAYER’ IN THE ‘BE STILL’ DVD:

‘LIGHTHOUSE TRAILS RESEARCH PROJECT’ –  ‘BE STILL DVD’

Though we are not to judge the heart and motives of a Christian, or where they stand concerning their relationship with Jesus Christ, we are told in  Scripture that we are to ‘make a right judgment,’ and that we are to ‘examine the Scriptures daily to see if what is being said (by those who claim to speak for Christ) is true,’ and how we are to ‘test all things and hold fast to what is true,’  (John 7:24, Acts 17:11, 1 Thessalonians 5:21,22) and we are also told to “earnestly contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints.”  (Jude 3) 

I am sure that most of you have heard the expression, ‘You can’t judge a book by its cover,”  but sometimes the title of a book (or video) can be very telling on what an author is trying to convey through their words.  With that in mind, please take a look at some of the ‘screen captures‘ of Priscilla Shirer‘s books and a comment made by someone who has read her books:

Capture Priscilla Shirer Discerning the Voice of God

Capture Priscilla Shirer's Book 'Can We Talk'.

Capture Review of Priscilla Shirer's Book 'Can We Talk'

Note that Beth Moore wrote the forward to Priscilla’s following book:

Capture Priscilla Shirer 'He Speaks To Me'

Capture Discerning the Voice of God Priscilla Shirer description of bookALL ABOVE QUICK CAPTURES WERE TAKEN FROM AMAZON.COM

Equally telling are the books that someone reads:

Capture Priscilla Shirer's list of books she has readSOURCE

As you can see from the list of books that Priscilla reads, some of them are: The Practice of the Presence of God,’ by Brother Lawrence, Prayer: Finding the Heart’s True Home,’ by Richard Foster, and When the Soul Listens by Jan Johnson.  All three of these writers heavily promote Contemplative Prayer.’  

Here’s a screen shot from Lighthouse Trails Website of Jan Johnson‘s book, ‘When the Soul Listens,’ in which you can clearly see that Jan Johnson indeed teaches ‘Contemplative Prayer.’

Capture Priscilla Shirer reads Jan Johnson's books - quick capture on LHTR of When the Soul ListensSOURCE

**ADDED 3-13-14** And in case you are not aware of what the CLOUD OF UNKNOWING is that is mentioned in Jan Johnson’s book as you can see in the ‘quick capture’ above, below you will see another ‘quick capture’ from a post on Lighthouse Trails in which you can clearly see that it is connected with the mystical and unbiblical practice of Contemplative Prayer.’

Capture The Cloud of Unknowing -Lighthouse Trails ResearchTo continue reading on LIGHTHOUSE TRAILS, click HERE

Sadly, the emphasis today seems to be growing more and more on having ‘experiences with God’ rather than wanting to take the time to study God’s Word in context and teaching it that way, as well.

**UPDATED 3-13-14 1:22 P.M.  Because there is obviously a shift taking place from learning about God through His Word to seeking to ‘hear God speak,’ it is very obvious now why so many are easily being led into accepting unbiblical and mystical practices such as ‘Contemplative/Centering Prayer.’  But there is no excuse for any Christian to fall for these spiritually deceptive practices if we stay in God’s Word and test everything in light of Scripture and become informed about these unbiblical practices. There are many good websites with great information on these topics. Personally, I highly recommend the writings of: PASTOR GARY GILLEY,   LIGHTHOUSE TRAILS,  HERESCOPE, and APPRISING MINISTRIES, because they are Biblical and write in depth about all of these unbiblical practices, as well as expose those who promote them. But as always, please make sure that you test everything against Scripture! (Acts 17:11, 1 Thessalonians 5:21,22)

I am sure that Priscilla is probably a lovely person, but what she sometimes presents in her teachings can be very misleading, and has the potential of leading many Christians away from Biblical truth and into unbiblical ‘new age’ mysticism!  To hear a teacher present to you that ‘you can hear God personally speak to you’ is to imply that God’s Word is no longer sufficient, and will lead many away from Biblical truth and into ‘spiritual deception.‘  (Such as Sarah Young is doing through her Jesus Calling devotional).

Harvest Bible Chapel and other Christian leaders must not only make sure that they teach solid Biblical truth, but also they must make sure that the teachers they invite do as well, and that the Bible Studies they present to their people focus on God’s Word and that they believe in the sufficiency of Scripture and teach that God’s Word is all we need to come to know God in a very deep and personal way, and that none of them promote unbiblical mystical practices.  [Which reminds me to warn all of you at HBCRM that James MacDonald will be speaking at a Pastor’s Conference in June entitled SHOW US YOUR GLORY, along with Francis Chan and Rick Warren!  About this conference we are told that many…

“…have been working, praying and planning to create a meeting where the presence of God is experienced in a life changing powerful way.”  (Emphasis is mine). 

And since Rick Warren promotes Contemplative Prayer,’ is it possible that some of their plans may include unbiblical mystical practices since they desire to  ‘experience the presence of God?’  Lord willing, I may write on that after it takes place –if I am somehow able to view that conference. As I mentioned in a couple of my other posts, ‘we are seeing James becoming more and more involved with Rick Warren,’ and that gives many of us good reasons to become seriously concerned and equally motivated to pray even more for James!

Please continue to pray for James and all those in leadership, not only at Harvest Bible Chapel Rolling Meadows, but also for all Christian pastors and teachers.  Pray discernment for them and  that they would seek God in His Word and not be led astray by those who promote unbiblical ways to “hear from God.”

Pray discernment for all Christians so that they will hunger for God’s Word, and pray that the Holy Spirit will ‘guide them into all truth,’  (John 16:13) so they will not be led into spiritual deception.  God’s Word warns us in 2 Timothy 4:3 and 1 Timothy 4:1:

“For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine.  Instead to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.” 

“The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.”

That time is clearly upon us!  Please do not be deceived!  Please…

“Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” ( 2 Timothy 2:15)

Thank you for stopping by and taking time out of your busy day to read some of my posts and poems.

God Bless You

~Mary Dalke/Living4HisGlory

 

RELATED SCRIPTURES

“In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days He has spoken to us by His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, and through whom also He made the universe. The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of His being, sustaining all things by His powerful Word.” (Hebrews 1:1-3a)

“Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there be a falling away first…”  (2 Thessalonians 2:3)

“Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.” (Acts 17:11)

“Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage–with great patience and careful instruction.  For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine.  Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear want to hear.  They will turn their ears from the truth and turn aside to myths.”  (2 Timothy 4:2-4)

“All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training in righteousness.” (2 Timothy 3:16)

“As for you, see what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father.  And this is what He promised us –eternal life. I am writing these things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray.  As for you the anointing you received from Him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you.  But as His anointing teaches you about all things, and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit–just as it has taught you, remain in Him.”  (1 John 2:24-26)

FURTHER READING

PASTOR GARY GILLEY — DISCERNMENT AND REVELATION (INFORMATION ALSO ON BETH MOORE)

PASTOR GARY GILLEY — SACRED READING (LECTIO DIVINA)

RECOMMENDED BOOK

Capture Gary Gilley IS THAT YOU, LORD

COMING SOON:

BEFORE RESURRECTION SUNDAY/EASTER 2014  –LORD WILLING:

MY TESTIMONY: FROM FEAR AND UNCERTAINTY, TO PEACE AND ASSURANCE — HOW GOD REVEALED THE TRUTH TO ME AS I WAS READING A CATHOLIC NEW TESTAMENT BIBLE – PART 2′

**UPDATED 3-13-14 9:17 P.M** ADDED RELATED SCRIPTURES AND ‘IS THAT YOU, LORD?’ VIDEO

**UPDATED 3-13-14 1:22 P.M.** ADDED LINKS TO WEBSITES THAT EXPOSE ‘CONTEMPLATIVE PRAYER’ AND OTHER FORMS OF UNBIBLICAL MYSTICAL PRACTICES THAT ARE MAKING THEIR WAY INTO THE CHURCH, AND A FEW MORE COMMENTS.

**UPDATED 3-13-14 12:51 P.M.** ADDED INFORMATION FROM LIGHTHOUSE TRAILS ON THE ‘CLOUD OF UNKNOWING’ WHICH IS IN ONE OF THE BOOKS THAT PRISCILLA SHIRER READS.

**UPDATED 3-13-14 9:08 A.M.** ADDED INFORMATION ABOUT PRISCILLA SHIRER CONCERNING HILLSONG CONFERENCE AND JOYCE MEYER

 

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