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For those of us who not only have come to an understanding of our sinfulness and God’s righteousness, but also have come to the point of putting our complete trust in what Jesus did when He willingly died in our place for our sins and we no longer place our trust in our ‘good works’ hoping to earn God’s forgiveness and love, our hearts are filled with gratefulness –especially at this time of year. When we realize that Jesus — God in the flesh — willingly allowed God, His Father, to pour out His wrath intended for us because of our sins upon Himself, it causes us to stand in awe and amazement at His love and undeserved grace and mercy! And as much as we may have a renewed appreciation for His willingness to die for us, and even though we may greatly rejoice in a deeper way on Resurrection Sunday for what He accomplished for us, oftentimes many of us don’t take enough time to reflect upon the excruciating pain that Jesus willingly endured on our behalf for our sins that once condemned us and separated us from a completely Holy God.

Around seven years ago I watched a video of a physician who explained in great detail the effects of crucifixion on the human body, thus revealing the unimaginable pain that Jesus must have gone through when He was crucified. It made me realize just how much Jesus suffered on my behalf to pay the debt for my sins. So today when I saw the following article that was posted by Ken Ham of Answers In Genesis I decided to share it with you hoping that it would cause your love and appreciation for what Jesus did for you to grow deeper, as well. When time allows, I hope you’ll consider taking some time to continue reading this deeply thought-provoking article, and I hope and pray that God will move upon your heart and give you a better grasp of the depth of the love that God has for you.

For those of you who have not yet come to the understanding of your need for a Savior, I pray that ‘God’s kindness will lead you to repentance,’ and that one day you will place your trust in Christ alone for your salvation and come to know the love, forgiveness, mercy, and grace of God, as well.

Please remember that only reading God’s Word can reveal His truth and His love to you, and ‘faith comes by hearing God’s Word’ (Romans 10:17) and not by having ‘experiences,’ but I thought that this article, as well as the many Scriptures I also posted for you, would be perfect to share with all of you today.

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A PHYSICIANS PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT JESUS ENDURED ON OUR BEHALF

From the Garden of Gethsemane to His last moments on the cross, Jesus — God in the flesh — took God the Father’s wrath intended for us because of our sins upon Himself, and died in our place. Is your trust in what you do, or have you placed your trust in what Jesus has already done for you?

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RELATED SCRIPTURES

“Who has believed our message and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed? He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him. He was despised and rejected by mankind, a man of suffering, and familiar with pain. Like one from whom people hide their faces he was despised, and we held him in low esteem. Surely he took up our pain and bore our suffering, yet we considered him punished by God, stricken by him, and afflicted. But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was on him, and by his wounds we are healed. We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to our own way;and the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all. He was oppressed and afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth; he was led like a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before its shearers is silent, so he did not open his mouth. By oppression and judgment he was taken away. Yet who of his generation protested? For he was cut off from the land of the living; for the transgression of my people he was punished. He was assigned a grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death, though he had done no violence, nor was any deceit in his mouth. Yet it was the Lord’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer, and though the Lord makes his life an offering for sin, he will see his offspring and prolong his days, and the will of the Lord will prosper in his hand. After he has suffered, he will see the light of life and be satisfied; by his knowledge my righteous servant will justify many, and he will bear their iniquities.Therefore I will give him a portion among the great,and he will divide the spoils with the strong,because he poured out his life unto death, and was numbered with the transgressors. For he bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.” (Isaiah 53:1-12)

“I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint. My heart has turned to wax; it has melted within me. My mouth is dried up like a potsherd, and my tongue sticks to the roof of my mouth; you lay me in the dust of death. Dogs surround me, a pack of villains encircles me; they pierce my hands and my feet. All my bones are on display; people stare and gloat over me. They divide my clothes among them and cast lots for my garment.” (Psalm 22:14-18)

“The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world. He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in His name, He gave the right to become children of God— children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God. The Word became flesh and made His dwelling among us. We have seen His glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth. (John testified concerning Him. He cried out, saying, “This is the one I spoke about when I said, ‘He who comes after me has surpassed me because He was before me.’ ”) Out of His fullness we have all received grace in place of grace already given. For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is Himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made Him known.” (John 1:9-18)

“And the testimony is this, that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. He who has the Son has the life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have the life.” (1 John 5:11,12)

“Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on them.” (John 3:36)

“Or do you show contempt for the riches of His kindness, forbearance, and patience, not realizing that God’s kindness is intended to lead you to repentance?” (Romans 2:4)

“The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.” (2 Peter 3:9)

“Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord…” (Acts 3:19)

“Now to the one who works, wages are not credited as a gift but as an obligation. However, to the one who does not work but trusts God who justifies the ungodly, their faith is credited as righteousness. David says the same thing when he speaks of the blessedness of the one to whom God credits righteousness apart from works: “Blessed are those whose transgressions are forgiven, whose sins are covered. Blessed is the one whose sin the Lord will never count against them.” (Romans 4:4-8)

“Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we boast in the hope of the glory of God. Not only so, but we also glory in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope. And hope does not put us to shame, because God’s love has been poured out into our hearts through the Holy Spirit, who has been given to us. You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly. Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous person, though for a good person someone might possibly dare to die. But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Since we have now been justified by His blood, how much more shall we be saved from God’s wrath through Him! For if, while we were God’s enemies, we were reconciled to Him through the death of His Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through His life! Not only is this so, but we also boast in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation. Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned.”                (Romans 5:1-12)

“But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God’s grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many! Nor can the gift of God be compared with the result of one man’s sin: The judgment followed one sin and brought condemnation, but the gift followed many trespasses and brought justification. For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God’s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ. Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people, so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people. For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.” (Romans 5:15-19)

“For Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God.” (1 Peter 3:18)

“When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, having cancelled the written code with its regulations that was against us and that stood opposed to us; He took it away, nailing it to the cross. And having disarmed the powers and authorities, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross.”         (Colossians 2:13-15)

“I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!” (Galatians 2:21)

Thank you for stopping by. And thank you very much for taking some time out of your busy day to read some of my posts and poems. God bless you.

~Mary Dalke/Living4HisGlory

Scriptures taken from The Holy Bible New International Version® 1973, 1978, 1984 International Bible Society Used by permission of Zondervan.  All rights reserved.

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Capture Eyes with tears 1UPDATED 1/26/15 1:30 P.M. ADDED MATT CHANDLER PART 1 OF ‘MINGLING OF SOULS’

This is another post in a new series of posts that I will be doing (Lord willing) at least once a month on Wednesdays (actually this one was published a little after midnight, so it’s now actually Thursday, but on with my post) so that I can make you all aware of some important information that I come across on the Internet that you may not have heard about. I have been trying to think of something that I could write on a regular basis that would be short and to the point (at least I’ll try to be), and since I am a detective-at-heart and desire to make you all aware of the importance of testing things in light of Scripture (Acts 17:11), the idea to do these posts — as well as the name — came to my mind in November of 2014, based on Acts 20:26-31:

“For I have not hesitated to proclaim to you the whole will of God. Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which He bought with His own blood. I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard! Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears.”

So with that in mind, here are some of the things I’d like to make you all aware of on this Wednesday …um, Thursday:

Matt Chandler is the pastor of the Village Church in Texas. And as you can see from the quick capture below, “Harvest Bible Chapel is excited to host Pastor Matt Chandler and the Mingling of Souls Conference.”

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This conference will take place at Harvest Bible Chapel Rolling Meadows on Friday, January 30th, at 7:00 p.m., and is based on the book of the Bible, the Song of Solomon. I posted this as a warning not only for those of you who attend either Harvest Bible Chapel Rolling Meadows (my former church for almost fifteen years) or any of the other HBC locations in the Chicago area, but also as a warning to any one else in the area who may be considering attending this conference and may not be aware of who Matt Chandler is, in order to alert all of you to some of the concerns that many Christians have about him. If you’re interested in knowing what some of these valid concerns are, please consider reading one of my previous posts, HARVEST BIBLE CHAPEL ROLLING MEADOWS BEWARE OF MATT CHANDLER, in which I added a lot of information not only in the post, but also in the comment section.

**ADDED 1/26/15** Below is Session 1 of The Mingling of Souls Conference that I hesitated to post when I first wrote this last week, but I decided to post it today, 1/26/15, in order to give you a clearer understanding of what you will probably hear if you choose to attend this conference. Watching this video may also change your mind about going and save you some valuable time and money!

In spite of the fact that Matt Chandler says he is “not trying to be crass” by saying some of what you will hear him say within the first portion of this video, the words he chose to say are unbecoming and unnecessary to say by someone who calls himself a pastor.

He has a lot of good things to say in this video, but nothing beyond what a praying and discerning Christian should already know concerning healthy, God-honoring relationships. Sadly, he also uses God’s name and Jesus’ name irreverently four times in this video: at the 3:22 minute mark, the 3:32 minute mark, during the 5:50-6:09 minute mark, and at the 6:33 minute mark. A pastor’s greatest desire should be to live, to speak, and to teach in such a way that it will be pleasing to God, and not in such a way so as to be liked and accepted by men. God’s Word is clear to those who choose to be teachers, saying that “those who teach will be judged more strictly.” (James 3:1)

 

Parents, please read THIS article from Lighthouse Trails so you are aware of what some of your children are being taught in many public schools these days.

Speaking of school and what is being taught these days, have you heard about Common Core Curiculum? Please watch the following video so you are informed.

Read the following article and you will see  A (VERY SAD) SIGN OF THE TIME WE LIVE IN — KEN HAM — ANSWERS IN GENESIS

In case any of you have been wondering what Rob Bell has been up to lately, read THIS article by ‘STAND UP FOR THE TRUTH.’

We are living in trying times that can be viewed as exciting times, as well, because the signs of the soon return of Jesus are more evident with each passing day! Would you be ready if Jesus came today? Have you placed your trust in what Jesus did when He died in your place, taking the full wrath of God upon Himself that was intended for us because of our sins? Or are you trying to earn God’s forgiveness by trying your best and hoping the good you do will outweigh the bad things you have done? “Choose this day whom you will serve.” (Joshua 24:15) Tomorrow is promised to no one, so seek Him while there is still time!

“First of all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our fathers died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.” But they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water. By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly. But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance. But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare. Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, where righteousness dwells.” (2 Peter 3:3-13)

Thank you for stopping by. And thank you very much for taking the time to read my posts and poems.

God bless you.

~Mary Dalke/Living4HisGlory

img002(One of my favorite Christmas pictures of my daughter and son when they were little).

INTRODUCTION

Making Christmas crafts with my children and decorating the tree together, staying up until 2 a.m. assembling and wrapping their presents after they were snuggled in their beds and fast asleep, remembering the joy on my precious children’s faces when they’d open their gifts on Christmas morning…these are just a few of the special memories of Christmas past.

Then there are the ones that still linger in my mind that bring feelings of heart-wrenching sadness, like the one Christmas when my son was older. It was around five or six years after his dad had left us. My daughter was playing either in her room or the family room to pass the time, while my son sat on the couch and waited patiently for his dad to come as he had told him and my daughter that he would. When minutes began to turn into hours, the sadness and disappointment that my son was feeling grew more evident on his face, and my heart broke for him. Then the phone rang, and his dad gave them both the frequently given reply on Christmas day:

“Dad can’t come today, but I’ll come and take you out during the week.”

Even though their dad did call them every day after he left, and came over twice a week to take them out, to tell your children that you are coming on Christmas day and to get their hopes up only to disappoint them, was cruel and totally uncalled for!

Christmas for me personally was very hard. Especially when I had to go to the mall and shop for gifts and watch many different men and women walking hand in hand and laughing together, and I was all alone, but still faithfully waiting and praying that my husband would return home and love me the way a husband is supposed to love his wife.

The Christmas before my ‘husband’ left, when things were tense and I was being completely rejected by him, temptation literally came knocking at our door:

It was about a week before Christmas, and it was after 10:00 p.m. Suddenly there was a knock at the door. As usual, my ‘husband’ was out with his friends, so I was not about to answer the door when I was home alone with two little kids. My daughter, who was nine years old at the time, but very wise for her age, kept telling me to open the door, and I kept telling her all the reasons why I shouldn’t. However, I gave in when she said, “Mommy, maybe God wants you to open the door.”  Hesitantly, I opened the door, keeping the screen door locked. There in front of me stood a tall, dark, and handsome man. He said,

“Hi. I know it’s late, but my car died out in front of your house, and I just wanted to let you know that I called the police to let them know, and I will be back tomorrow with a friend to help me get it started.”

I said, “Okay,” and closed the door. The verse “make the most of every opportunity” came to mind, and since it was almost Christmas and I had a box of New Testament Bibles and would give a New Testament to people who would come to my door whether they were Jehovah’s Witnesses or Mormons, or selling magazines or windows, etc., I decided to give him one, as well. After all, it couldn’t be a coincidence that his car just happened to die out in front of my house when his car could have died out a few houses further down the street. I knew that God wanted me to share the gospel with this man, so I wrote a short message inside of the New Testament that I was going to give him. I said something like this:

“I don’t know what you have gone through in life, but I know that it wasn’t a coincidence that your car happened to die out in front of my house. I believe that God allowed your car to die out in front of my house because He knew that I would be faithful to share His love and truth with you. He wants to bring healing to your broken heart and hope for your future that can only come by receiving His love and forgiveness.”

In my message I clearly shared the gospel with him, and included a tract, as well. In front of the Bible was a list of questions that led a person to the knowledge of the fact that we are all sinners in need of a Savior, and the need to repent of sin, and listed many Scriptures where these truths could be found. When I finished writing the letter, I put it inside of the Bible and wrapped it in Christmas paper so I would be ready for when he would return  with his friend the next day hoping to get his car started.

The next day he did return with his friend, and after his car started he came and knocked on our door to let us know. I then held out the wrapped Bible, and said, “This is for you.” He said,  “What’s this?” I said, “Well, it’s almost Christmas, and I wanted to give you this.” He looked stunned and appreciative as he took the package and thanked me and went to his car. I closed the door but stood there and prayed strongly as I watched him walk to his car through the tiny window in the door. He sat there for a while, so I figured he was opening his gift, so I closed my eyes and strongly began to pray for him. I prayed that God would prepare his heart and mind to receive the message of the gospel and all that I had shared with him. Suddenly, I heard the door bell ring, and opened the door to see him standing there. With tears in his eyes, he said, “How did you know?” He proceeded to tell me that he had been in Viet Nam and how when he came back his wife had left him. Everything that happened I recorded in my diary, but basically I said the following to him:

“I didn’t know. I just knew that God allowed your car to die out in front of my house and knew that He wanted me to give you a Bible and to tell you that He loves you.” 

His eyes filled with tears as he thanked me again, and he went back to his car and drove away.

Little did I know that he would return less than a year later, just a couple of months after my ‘husband’ left us. To make a loooong story short, he came to our door and said the following words to me:

“I thought about you a lot over the past year. I didn’t come back to start trouble; I just needed to come back to see if it was you, or Jesus in you that I was attracted to.”

I stood strong, and in my mind I kept saying, “Jesus in me! Jesus in me!” I loved and feared God too much to give in to temptation, and I loved my ‘husband’ in spite of how he treated me throughout our marriage to ever consider getting involved with another man when I was still married to him.

In an attempt to stop him from continuing to talk about me, I turned the focus of the conversation on to Jesus, and shared the gospel with him again, making it clear to him that we are all sinners in need of a Savior, so that he would see his need to turn from sin by having a true godly sorrow in his heart for the things he had done. I asked him if he would like to receive God’s love and forgiveness, by placing his complete trust in Jesus Christ alone for the forgiveness of his sins, and he said he did. I led him in a prayer, and he repeated it after me, and when we were done he looked as if the weight of the world had lifted off of his shoulders.

After encouraging him to continue reading the Bible, I tried to end our conversation so he would leave, because he was saying all kinds of things that every woman would like to hear. Especially a woman like me who rarely ever heard those kind of things from her husband; a ‘husband’ who had now left me. There was no sexual overtones to anything he said; he just made comments about the thoughts he had concerning me over the past year. Things like how he thought I was pretty, and how he thought about my “big brown eyes.” As I firmly tried to end our conversation, he handed me a ripped piece of paper with his phone number on it and told me that I could call him if I wanted to, and then he finally left.

I could have tried to justify calling him in my mind by telling myself that ‘he needs my guidance,’ but the  thought to do that never crossed my mind; I knew this would not be God’s will, and I would be setting myself up for temptations if I ever did. He was completely in God’s hands now. I never called him, and he never came to my home again. It was one of those opportunities that I made the most of, at a time when I could have been sad and depressed, but I chose instead to share the love of God and the gospel of grace, hope, and forgiveness with this heart-broken man. We as Christians need to see the opportunities that God sets before us, but we need to proceed with caution! We must use the opportunities that come our way with the desire to bring glory to God by constantly being led by His Spirit and not our flesh, because  Satan will try to use some of these opportunities that come our way in an attempt to destroy us (1 Peter 5:8) if we are not constantly in God’s Word and ignore the warnings clearly set forth in Scripture!

I praised God for the opportunity that He gave me that night, and still praise Him and stand in awe at how He arranged for this man’s car to die out in front of our house that night right before Christmas so many years ago!

 

RELATED SCRIPTURES

“Forget the former things; do not dwell on the past.” (Isaiah 43:18)

“Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus.” (Philippians 3:13b,14)

“Be very careful, then, how you live–not as unwise, but as wise, making the most of every opportunity, because the days are evil.” (Ephesians 5:15,16)

“Be wise in the way you act towards outsiders; make the most of every opportunity. Let your conversation be always full of grace, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how to answer everyone.” (Colossians 4:5,6)”Be self-controlled and alert. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. Resist him standing firm in the faith…” (1 Peter 5:8,9a)

“This is how God showed His love among us: He sent His one and only Son into the world that we might live through Him. This is love: not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins.” (1 John 4:9,10)

“We know that we live in Him and He in us, because He has given us His Spirit. And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent His Son to be the Savior of the world. If anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God, God lives in him and he in God. And so we know and rely on the love God has for us.” (1 John 4:13-16)

Scriptures taken from The Holy Bible New International Version® 1973, 1978, 1984 International Bible Society.  Used by permission of Zondervan.  All rights reserved.

CHRISTMAS REFLECTIONS

The Christmas season has a way of bringing many memories to my mind

Some are precious moments tucked away, unchanged by time

Some are best forgotten, but they linger still the same

Some bring tears of joy, some still a hint of pain

Unmet expectations, hopes and dreams yet to be fulfilled

Sorrow grows within my heart, and yet, in a moment’s time, because of Christ, my

heart is stilled

I choose instead to reflect upon that holy night, so long ago

When God sent His only Son to redeem mankind, because He loved us so

I take time to reflect upon the moment, that He gave me eyes to see

His redemptive plan revealed in Scripture, His truth that set me free

It’s then my perspective changes, before my emotions send me spiraling out

of control

I choose instead to be led by His Spirit, to find someone who is broken of heart

and soul

Someone who needs to hear the gospel message, that brings hope, forgiveness,

and grace

A message that can set a captive free, and bring a heart-felt smile to light one’s face

Though there are many longings in my heart that still remain

From dwelling on thoughts that can lead to despair and hopelessness, I must choose

to refrain

As this year draws to an end, I reflect upon one thing I know to be true

That God’s love transcends any love I’ve ever known, for He came down to give

His life for me —and you

Copyright©2014 Mary K. Dalke/Living4HisGlory/Living For His Glory All rights reserved.

Updated January 5th, 2015 (Added more thoughts to my Introduction and another Scripture).

Thank you for stopping by! And thank you very much for taking the time to read some of my posts and poems.

A BLESSED HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL OF YOU!

God Bless You

~Mary/Living4HisGlory

 

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As I mentioned in one of my previous posts, I came across some videos that revealed new information to me on something that I had never heard of before.  It’s called –Technocracy.  What I learned filled me with concern, and further investigation into the topic also prevented me from being able to fully concentrate on working on Part 3 of my testimony, entitled,  ‘FROM FEAR AND UNCERTAINTY, TO PEACE AND ASSURANCE – HOW GOD REVEALED THE TRUTH TO ME WHILE I WAS READING A CATHOLIC NEW TESTAMENT BIBLE’  So, in order to free my mind up from all of this information so that I can go back to working on Part 3, I decided to write the following poem, to, once again, warn many of you about what is taking place in many churches these days. 

Unless something happens to lead me to do otherwise, I decided that this will be my final poem that I will write that will be completely devoted to warning you about what is taking place in many churches today.  I will, however, continue to write about certain topics of importance that I think needs to be brought to your attention, and I will always emphasize the importance of testing what pastors and teachers say in light of Scripture as God’s Word shows us we are to do. (Acts 17:11) (1 Thessalonians 5:21,22)  I just find it very frustrating that some Christians continue to refuse to listen to some of us who are warning of the importance of only being followers of Jesus Christ and not a man and his ministry.  And some  also refuse to test the words and actions of pastors and teachers in light of Scripture, relying on the false belief that since these men have been faithful to preach God’s Word accurately in the past for so many years, then they couldn’t possibly be preaching or teaching something unbiblical now.  Sometimes I feel like I’m just wasting my time.  I have said all that needs to be said to warn many of you to wake up, and now it’s time for me to move on and write about other things.  

I am still learning, as well; I certainly don’t claim to know it all.  I’m realizing more and more just how quickly spiritual deception is growing; pastors and teachers I have never even heard of before are now coming to my attention, and they are misleading many Christians!  All because these Christians are seeking ‘something new‘ and do not treasure God’s Word or test what is being said and done in light of Scripture.  Therefore, I decided to end my poem by just coming right to the point, hoping to jolt some people into reality by the fact that what we believe has eternal consequences.  I know that only God’s Word can reveal truth to people, but a statement as well as information based on Biblical truth can also make an impact, and that’s what I am hoping to accomplish through my poem and all I posted below.

I’ll be praying about what to write in the days ahead, but for those of you who look to pastors and teachers as if they can do no wrong, as well as those of you who refuse to listen to all the warnings that many have given you concerning many pastors and teachers, I pray the day will soon comes when you will finally take the time to look into some of these things for yourselves.  You just might discover that what we have been saying all this time is actually true.

Now on to the actual topic of this post:

Many of you have had your eyes opened to the fact that there are pastors who no longer act like shepherds, but instead they act as if they are rulers of an empire or a corporation.  That’s what happens when men seek to build their church using worldly church-growth strategies of non-Christian, Peter Drucker, rather than trusting God alone to grow their churches (Acts 2:47) as they simply choose to faithfully preach the gospel and teach His Word verse by verse, Sunday after Sunday.

The following information I am going to be sharing with you is concerning ‘Dominionism’ and ‘Technocracy.’  Dominionism, simply put,  is a theology that says we, as followers of Jesus Christ, are to build the kingdom here on earth in order for Him to return.  This is not Biblical because it denies the imminent return of Jesus.  The King of kings and Lord of lords does not need our help to usher in His return!  However, it doesn’t stop groups such as IHOP (International House of Prayer…something I intend on writing about in the future –Lord willing) from telling thousands of young believers that they can be used to usher in the return of Jesus Christ, as Misty Edwards tells a large group of young people at a One Thing Conference.  I found these videos on YouTube back in 2009 and shared them with you on one of my other posts, but I thought it was fitting to share it with you here, as well.  Misty also goes into great detail to share her ‘dream’ with those in attendance.  Again I urge you all to test everything she says in light of Scripture.

 

DOMINIONISM

 

Below are the main videos with the information I came across that filled me with concern that I was referring to:  Meet Dr. Martin Erdmann.  A wonderful Christian man who was born in Germany, and who loves God and thoroughly researched the teachings of ‘Technocracy.’  In the following videos, Martin presents the information in such a way that it sheds even more light on what some of us are seeing take place in many mega-churches today.  If you don’t have a lot of free time at the moment, may I ask you then to please push the video forward to the 44:33 minute mark so that you can at least hear his explanation of what Technocracy is as it relates to mega-churches.  This will explain to you what to watch for at your church, as Martin Erdmann says… “if technocracy takes hold as a religion within a Christian church.”  Then, when time allows, please go back and listen to the whole message, as well as Part 2 below.

Here’s a short definition of ‘Technocracy’ given by Martin Erdmann in the interview he did with SAID RADIO that I posted for you under ‘RELATED INFORMATION’

“It’s a political and economic system a form of government in which experts in technology would be in control of all decision making.”   “It can be set up as a religion and is said to be, “The New Christianity.”

Here are just two quotes by Martin Erdmann from the video below to make you realize how relevant this information is to many of us!

“If technocracy takes hold of a church the senior pastor will exert his ultimate authority over against any elder board put in place.” 

“Getting rid of elders in some ways must be the highest objective of a pastor who has bought into technocracy.”  

 

 

In an interview I heard of Martin Erdmann discussing the subject of ‘Dominionism,’ he shared the three main points of this movement which will give you a good idea of  how cunningly deceptive and unbiblical it really is: 

1)Satan usurped man’s dominion over the earth through the temptation of Adam and Eve

2) The church is God’s instrument to take dominion back from Satan

3) Jesus cannot or will not return return until the church has taken dominion by gaining control of the earth’s government and social institutions

Here is a wonderful message by Martin Erdmann in which he focuses completely on our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ:

 

RELATED VIDEOS

 

 

 

9/28/14 HERE’S THE NEWLY RELEASED UPDATED VERSION OF THE VIDEO ABOVE:

 

IN CLOSING

I truly hope you come to realize the seriousness of the information I have shared with you in this post.  I pray that it will not fill you with fear, but I do pray that it will cause you to become serious about your commitment to Jesus Christ and the study of His Word so that when you are confronted with a false teaching — in whatever form it may come before you —  you will know the truth of God’s Word so well that you will not be deceived by any false teaching no matter how appealing it may seem to be at first. 

Thank you for stopping by and taking time out of your busy day to read some of my posts and poems.

God Bless You

~Mary Dalke/Living4HisGlory

 

SCRIPTURES FOR YOU TO REFLECT ON

“My sheep listen to My voice; I know them and they follow Me.”                  (John 10:27)

Therefore I declare to you today that I am innocent of the blood of all men.  For I have not hesitated to proclaim to you the whole will of God.  Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers.  Be shepherds of the church of God which He bought with His own blood.  I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock.  Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them.  So be on your guard!  Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears.” (Acts 20:26-31)

“I appeal to you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another so that there may be no divisions among you and that you may be perfectly united in mind and thought.  My brothers, some from Chloe’s household have informed me that there are quarrels among you.  What I mean is this: One of you says,  “I follow Paul”; another, “I follow Apollos”, another,  “I follow Cephas”; still another,  “I follow Christ.”  Is Christ divided?  Was Paul crucified for you?  Were you baptized into the name of Paul?” (1 Corinthians 1:10-13)

“The poor you will always have with you.” (–Jesus –Matthew 26:11)

“See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ.” (Colossians 2:8)

“The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs, and wonders, and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing.  They perish because they refused to love the truth and be saved.  For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.” (2 Thessalonians 2:9-12)

“Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners — of whom I am the worst.  But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display His unlimited patience as an example for those who would believe on Him and receive eternal life.  Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever.  Amen.” (1 Timothy 1:15-17)

“But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.  The Lord is not slow in keeping His promise, as some understand slowness.  He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.  But the day of the Lord will come like a thief.  The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare.  Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be?  You ought to live holy and godly lives as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming.  That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat.  But in keeping with His promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, the home of righteousness.  So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless, and at peace with Him.” (2 Peter 3:8-14)

“For God was pleased to have all His fullness dwell in Him, and through Him to reconcile to Himself all things whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through His blood, shed on the cross.”            (Colossians 1:19,20)

 

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VOICES

So many voices clamoring to be heard

Many are leading Christians away from the truth of God’s Holy Word

Some voices are calling out for ‘unity,’ some call to ‘build the Kingdom here on earth’

Voices presenting appealing messages, but in light of Scripture they have no worth

Does the timing of Christ’s return really depend upon you and me

Or is there a dark agenda infiltrating churches that we, at first, can’t clearly see

Caring for the poor and the earth are loving and responsible things to do

But the poor will always be with us, and this world is destined to be destroyed, God’s

Word shows these things to be true

Preaching the gospel to the lost is the church’s main command

Proclaiming Jesus’ death, burial, and resurrection; sharing a message of hope to

sinners throughout every land

But now some voices are declaring ‘there’s no such thing as sin,’

Therefore there’s no need for a Savior, these voices say, “we’re divine within”

The only voice we should follow is the voice of the Shepherd of our soul

Not the voice of hirelings attempting to gain full control

Shepherds once guarded their flocks from false teachers who attempted to come

within

They now tell us what to think; to disagree is considered rebellion and sin

Even though we may at first not clearly realize…

This is all leading to a One World Religion; it’s Satan’s ultimate lie in full disguise

Those who now refuse to test the words of men against the truth of God’s Holy Word

Will be the ones who say this information is just crazy and absurd

But if you take the time to pray and seek to test all I have to share

Against God’s Word and history, you’ll see a neon sign that says,  “BEWARE!!”

In 2 Thessalonians God’s Word shows just how real deception is going to be

Those deceived will be the ones who refuse to love the truth, and will be lost

for all eternity

They love their sin, and are followers of men, regardless of what these men do or say

They reject the truth revealed in light of Scripture; their leaders they refuse to betray

The idolatry of men is preparing many for the final dictator who will rule

Satan will reign for a season; the Antichrist will be his ultimate tool

There will be no peace till the Prince of Peace returns and reigns for a thousand years

The day will come when wars will cease and He will wipe away all tears

If Jesus should return this very moment, will He find you as one who is faithful

and true

Or will you be found as a follower of one of many voices set only on deceiving you

Will you heed this final warning and return to your first love

Or will you be unprepared when the trumpet sounds and His call goes out to gather

His own above

Time is running out, no one knows when He’ll return

But all the signs are everywhere, don’t be deceived, or, to put it bluntly, for eternity

you will burn

Copyright© 2014 Mary K. Dalke/Living4HisGlory/Living For His Glory  All rights reserved.

Picture obtained from Photobucket – heaven 13-2.jpg

Scripture added by Mary K. Dalke on Photobucket

 

RELATED INFORMATION:

JANET MEFFERD — THE DRISCOLL CASE NOW IN THE JURY’S HANDS

HERESCOPE BLOG — WE ARE NOT ABANDONED

HERESCOPE BLOG — WHAT IS DOMINIONISM

SAID RADIO — EXCELLENT INTERVIEW WITH MARTIN ERDMANN ON TECHNOCRACY AND TRANSHUMANISM (Simply put, many well known mega-pastors are mentioned).

BOOK REVIEW BY PASTOR GILLEY OF SOUTHERN VIEW CHAPEL,OF — BUILDING THE KINGDOM OF GOD ON EARTH BY MARTIN ERDMANN

 

INTRODUCTION

The following poem came about as I began hearing the many calls for ‘unity‘ and became deeply troubled by what I was hearing!  I know that there are many other born-again, true followers of Christ who are equally as troubled by these calls for ‘unity’ as I am, and the way I decided to warn other Christians was by writing about it and expressing my thoughts through the following poem.

When I first watched the video above, I was shocked by the responses of acceptance and approval expressed by many people in the audience to what Tony Palmer was saying which obviously revealed that many lack Biblical discernment and the knowledge and understanding that the teachings of the Catholic church have not changed at all!  Below is just one of the many examples of the “anathemas” declared by the Catholic church.  This is Canon IV from the Canons and Decrees of the Council of Trent which still stands today:

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Many who claim to be Christians fail to test what is being said (by those who claim to speak Biblical truth) against the truth of God’s Word, (Acts 17:11) and therefore are sadly led into spiritual deception because they are moved by their emotions, and in this case many are thinking how Jesus would want us all to unite to bring about His desire for all of us to be as one, when this is not the type of unity Jesus was praying for in John 17…

“My prayer is not for them alone.  I pray also for those who will believe in Me through their message, that all of them may be one, Father, just as You are in Me and I am in You.  May they also be in Us so that the world may believe that You have sent Me.  I have given them the glory that You gave Me, that they may be one as we are one–I in them and You in Me–so that they may be brought to complete unity.  Then the world will know that you sent Me and have loved them even as You have loved Me.”  (John 17:20-23)

I will share more thoughts with you when time allows, but I want to post this poem now to give enough time for as many as possible to respond to the poll I posted below.  I would deeply appreciate your participation if the question applies to you!  Thank you, and God bless you!

RELATED SCRIPTURES

“I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel– which is really no gospel at all.  Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ.  But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!  As we have already said, so now I say again: if anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!” (Galatians 1:6-9)

“Therefore being justified by faith we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ.” (Romans 5:1)

“But whatever was to my profit I now consider loss for the sake of Christ.  What is more, I consider everything a loss compared to the surpassing greatness of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I have lost all things.  I consider them rubbish, that I may gain Christ and be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ–the righteousness that comes from God and is by faith.”  (Philippians 3:7-9)

“For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith,–and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God– not by works, so that no one can boast.” (Ephesians 2:8,9)

“But when the kindness and love of God our Savior appeared, He saved us, not because of righteous things we have done, but because of His mercy.” (Titus 3:4,5)”

“The end of all things is near.  Therefore be clear minded and self-controlled so that you can pray.” (1 Peter 4:7)

“Now I know that none of you among whom I have gone about preaching the kingdom will ever see me again.  Therefore I declare to you today that I am innocent of the blood of all men.  For I have not hesitated to proclaim to you the whole will of God.  Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers.  Be shepherds of the church of God, which He bought with His own blood.  I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock.  Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them.  So be on your guard!  Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears.” (Acts 20:25-31)

“Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.” (1 John 4:1)

 

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WILL YOU BE DECEIVED INTO UNITY?

Unity with those who teach false doctrine is not what Jesus had in mind

When He prayed unto His Father before He left this world behind

And yet we see this happening right before our very eyes

The call for unity that’s now taking place is spiritual deception in disguise

Lulled into a state of compromise because Christians fail to test what’s said against

God’s Word

They’re being emotionally manipulated and therefore deceived by all the lies that they

have heard

Some lies being told are, “The protest is over,” and “The miracle of unity has begun”

And that we’ll “commit the sin of separation by refusing to join together all as one”

A call for unity now goes out all across the land

A claim that “on doctrinal issues we all agree,” so link now, hand in hand

But nothing could be further from the truth, Vatican II sure makes that clear

All anathemas are still in place, and precious Catholics are still deceived and bound

by fear

Will you be deceived into unity by all the voices you will hear

Will you be led by your emotions that stir your heart and cause your eyes to tear

Or will you recognize deception at the very moment it comes your way

Because you know God’s Holy Word and for discernment you always pray

Jesus strongly and repeatedly warns us of deception in His Word, so be alert; do not

be deceived

Even ‘New Age’ mysticism is being taught and accepted; doctrines of demons now

openly practiced and believed

The return of Jesus Christ could come at any moment, the signs are all around us,

it’s clear to see

So stand strong, be guided by God’s Spirit and not your emotions, don’t be deceived

into a Christless unity

COPYRIGHT © 2014 Mary K. Dalke/LivingForHisGlory/Living4HisGlory All rights reserved.

“For the preaching of the cross…” Picture obtained from  KingJamesBibleOnline.org

I found and ‘quick captured’ the shot of Canon IV from the ‘Canons and Decrees of the Council of Trent’ in a Mike Gendron video.  I will post the video here in the very near future.

Scriptures taken from The Holy Bible New International Version® 1973, 1978, 1984 International Bible Society.  Used by permission of Zondervan.  All rights reserved.

Lord willing, coming soon:

MY TESTIMONY: FROM FEAR AND UNCERTAINTY TO PEACE AND ASSURANCE — HOW GOD REVEALED THE TRUTH TO ME AS I WAS READING A CATHOLIC NEW TESTAMENT BIBLE

(In this post I will be sharing many of the teachings of the Catholic church with you and testing them against the truth of God’s Word.  I will be using an exact copy of the Catholic New Testament  I originally read back in 1980 with the hope that God will open the eyes of many Catholics so that they will  also see and receive the joyous truth of who Jesus really is, and what  His perfect, sinless life,  His  death, and His resurrection really accomplished for us!  Lord willing, I hope to have it done by the end of July –possible August.  If you’re interested I hope you’ll consider checking  back  here from time to time.  God bless you!) **UPDATE** ALREADY COMPLETED AND POSTED MY TESTIMONY. YOU CAN ACCESS ALL THREE PARTS BY CLICKING ON THE LINK BELOW:

MY TESTIMONY: FROM FEAR AND UNCERTAINTY, TO PEACE AND ASSURANCE – HOW GOD REVEALED THE TRUTH TO ME AS I WAS READING A CATHOLIC NEW TESTAMENT BIBLE – PART 3 (TO READ PART 1 AND 2, CLICK AT THE VERY TOP OF THE POST WHERE INDICATED)

 

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First I’d like to start out with an apology for not posting anything lately…life has been quite hectic because my mom is still in a rehabilitation center, and I just started a new job as a Jamberry Nails Independent Consultant sharing designs and information with women about these stylish, long wearing, chemical free, latex free, vinyl nail wraps on my Facebook Business Page, (and elsewhere) and seeing if I can set up a Jamberry Nails fundraiser for a shelter for abused women some time during the month of June. (You can see my ABOUT page if you’re interested in knowing more about these nail wraps. 🙂 ) **UPDATE** I’m sorry. As of November 30th 2014 I am no longer a Jamberry Nails Independent Consultant).

Well, Lord willing, tomorrow morning I will be posting the poem I wrote over the past week as something to warn you about concerning the “unity” we are now seeing take place in the name of ‘Christianity.’  I’ll also be posting another poll hoping that those of you who stop by my blog will participate if you at one point attended a Catholic church but left once your eyes were opened by hearing the Biblical gospel that exposed the gospel according to Rome which sadly traps precious Catholics by their deceptive teachings and fills them with fear and keeps them in bondage.  I speak by personal experience!

I enjoyed presenting the last poll to you and appreciated those of you who took the time to participate!  Thank you very much!  And just as a reminder, I’m not sure, but I believe the longest amount of time a person can participate in a poll is only until the end of the day it’s posted, which is why I’ll be posting the poem I wrote tomorrow morning as opposed to now.  And I just found out by looking at my previous post that they actually remove the polls after a certain amount of time; they don’t even allow us to keep them posted on our blogs.  😦  (UPDATE: 6-7-14: I just noticed now that the poll is still there…I just didn’t scroll down far enough :/  )

I also wanted to let you know that, Lord willing, I am hoping by the end of July (possibly August) that I will find enough time to write and completePart 3‘ of my testimony, which should be the final part of – ‘MY TESTIMONY: FROM FEAR AND UNCERTAINTY TO PEACE AND ASSURANCE — HOW GOD REVEALED THE TRUTH TO ME AS I WAS READING A CATHOLIC NEW TESTAMENT BIBLE’ (**UPDATE** Already completed. You can read all three pasts by clicking HERE).

I hope you’ll consider stopping back here tomorrow morning, Saturday, June 7, 2014, to read my poem and learn about this false unity that’s being presented these days just in case you’re not aware of what I will be sharing here, as well as taking part in the poll if it applies to you.

Thank you very much for stopping by. And thank you very much for taking time out of your busy day to read some of my posts and poems.  If you feel led, please leave a comment and share what you have been through on this post or any recent  post or poem I have written.  I would love to hear from you or to encourage you if you’re presently going through a difficult time in your life.

Thank you very much for stopping by. And thank you very much for taking time out of your busy day to read some of my posts and poems.

God Bless You

~Mary Dalke/Living4HisGlory

 

Sadly, we are seeing more and more people leaving their once solid Bible teaching churches and are now churchless, heartbroken, and devastated.  Before leaving, many attempted to first express their concerns to the leadership of their church, but oftentimes all that happened after sharing their heart-felt concerns was the pastor or elder of their church told them things that implied they were simply ‘ungrateful’ or that they have ‘critical spirits,’  and their words were twisted and used against them, and attempts were made to explain away every reason for the validity of their concerns, leaving these people crushed and rejected,  like sheep without a shepherd to guide them in God’s truth.

Gone are the days when many people meet in ‘churches‘  to worship God.  It is commonplace to hear a church referred to now as a “campus.”  And oftentimes worship songs have now been turned into songs that are void of Scriptural truths, and references to God are replaced with the word ‘you’ that make many songs sound like romantic songs with words you could say to your boyfriend or girlfriend.  Ugh! :/

By numerous things I have heard lately, it is clear that many in church leadership have lost not only the respect and reverence for God, but also the fear of God!  I’ll be writing a poem concerning  all these things in the days ahead, but thought it would be very eye-opening to hear from all of you out there to see just how many people have  actually had to leave a church, and how long they were attending before they had to make the difficult decision to leave.  So if you would, please simply click on the circle next to the answer that best fits your response in the poll I posted below, and later tonight you can see the results.  Since the longest amount of time that is allowed for me to allow people to vote is only until the end of the day, I’d appreciate it if you’d kindly pass this post around to anyone you know that had to leave a church so we can have a more accurate picture of the devastation that is happening in the lives of many of you out there who have had the courage to take a strong stand for Biblical truth and leave your church because you have your eyes on Jesus and not on a man and his ministry.  Sadly,  many pastors have not only drifted from God’s Word as the example of how we as Christians are to live our lives, but also many pastors have drifted from relying upon the Spirit of God to grow the church and instead have turned to worldly methods that only end up producing false converts and sadly leave many continuing to travel along the road that only leads to destruction. 

May God bless each of you for ‘earnestly contending for the faith,’ (Jude 3) and may He  heal your broken hearts, and lead you to a solid Bible teaching church where you will find yourself testing everything in light of Scripture because of all that you have been through.  You have now learned the importance of being a Berean as God’s Word shows us we as Jesus Christ’s followers are all to be. (Acts 17:11)

If you are in the process of searching for a new church, please continue to dig into God’s Word while you are searching in order to receive the comfort, truth, strength, and discernment needed in the day that we find ourselves living in; a day of darkness, spiritual deception, and men who ‘preach’ simply to satisfy the itching ears of sinful men and women in the hopes of growing their churches instead of growing and maturing their people in the truths of God and His Word.  And may I suggest to you to consider searching online and watching the pastor’s sermons so you don’t have to waste time traveling there only to find the same problems at that church that you just left behind.

Lord willing, I am hoping to have the poem written within the next week or two.  Please feel free to post a comment explaining your reasons for leaving your church, or if you need some encouragement or just someone to listen to you, please send me a message by using the ‘contact form’ below.  Thank you very much for your assistance in taking part in this pole.

God bless you, and thank you very much for stopping by, and thank you very much for taking the time to read my posts and poems!

RELATED SCRIPTURES

“And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved.”  (Acts 2:47b)

“As for you, see what you have heard from the beginning remains in you.  If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father.  And this is what He promised us –eternal life.  I am writing these things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray.  As for you, the anointing you received from Him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you.  But as His anointing teaches you about all things, and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit–just as it has taught you, remain in Him.”  (1 John 2:24-26)

“Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage–with great patience and careful instruction.  For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine.  Instead, to suit their own desires they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.  They will turn their ears from the truth and turn aside to myths.”  (2 Timothy 4:2-4)

“Therefore I declare to you that I am innocent of the blood of all men.  For I have not hesitated to proclaim to you the whole will of God.  Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers.  Be shepherds of the church of God which He bought with His own blood.  I know that after I leave , savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock.  Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them.  Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears.”  (Acts 20:26-31)

 

 

 

FURTHER READING

WHOM DO YOU FOLLOW

LIKE SHEEP WITHOUT A SHEPHERD

WARNING YOU WITH TEARS

LEARN TO DISCERN SO YOU WILL NOT BE DECEIVED

IS YOUR CHURCH SLOWLY BECOMING PURPOSE DRIVEN WITHOUT YOU EVEN REALIZING IT

IS YOUR PASTOR A SHEPHERD OR A WOLF — WOLVES IN THE PULPIT

THE CHURCH GROWTH MOVEMENT — IS IT AFFECTING YOUR CHURCH

OUT OF THE DARKNESS AND INTO THE LIGHT

 

 

 

In the search for choosing Christian teachers to build up the body of Christ (Ephesians 4:11-15) it seems that some Christian leaders at Harvest Bible Chapel Rolling Meadows are among the many today who have forgotten the importance of Biblical discernment. Some may believe that since a person is a professing Christian and a gifted and popular speaker and Bible teacher, as well, that their words and teachings must then be trustworthy.  But what happened to Biblical discernment and the commands in Scripture that we are to test the words of men — and women — in light of Scripture?  (Acts 17:11) Have pastors forgotten their important roles to be shepherds who are to watch over their sheep and how Scripture warns that they are to ‘keep watch over themselves and their flock,’ and that Scripture says that ‘even from our own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them,’ and how we are to ‘be on guard?’  (Acts 20)

Some of those questions — and more — came to mind when, on Sunday, March 9th, 2014, I saw on Harvest Bible Chapel Rolling Meadows weekly sermon’ page that they were informing women that a new DVD series by Priscilla Shirer entitled GIDEON: YOUR WEAKNESS GOD’S STRENGTH would be starting soon, as you can see from the ‘screen capture’ below:

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Great title, for sure!  But this is the question that all of us need to answer: Does everything she teach line up with Scripture?  Well, since the reason for writing this post is to warn those at Harvest Bible Chapel (as well as others) about Bible teacher, author, and speaker, Priscilla Shirer, the answer to that question is: No.

In the past I have read some posts written about Priscilla Shirer warning about some of the unbiblical things she teaches, as well as some of the false teachers she associates with, but I couldn’t quite remember all the details, so I decided to do my own investigation by listening to some of her videos so I could then share with you what I found after testing what she said against Scripture. (Acts 17:11)

One thing I learned about her that I wasn’t aware of before, is that her father is Christian Pastor, speaker, and author, Dr. Tony Evans, who also has a radio program on Moody radio.  I also discovered that she was one of the  speakers at Moody’s Founders Week this past February 2014, and that she preached from Chapter 6 of Deuteronomy to a large group of women –and men.  (Hmmm. Doesn’t God’s Word say in 1 Timothy 3:14,15, and 2:11-15 that a woman is not to be put in a position of teaching men?)  Please consider taking some time to listen to the videos I posted below, and think carefully about what she is saying in light of Scripture and see what conclusions you come to.  Yes, she presents herself very well, and holds her audience’s attention, but does she focus on the truth recorded in Scripture?  Or does she — at times — share with her predominantly Christian audience something entirely different –and even unbiblical?

First of all, if any of you are not aware of what Contemplative/Centering Prayer is, I would like to ask you to please take the time to read this excellent article written by Pastor Gary Gilley of Southern View Chapel, so that you are aware of what to look for when you listen to Priscilla Shirer and others (such as Beth Moore) who, in different degrees, promote this unbiblical method of  so-called ‘prayer’ that teaches you ‘how to hear ‘God’ speak to you’:

PASTOR GARY GILLEY – CONTEMPLATIVE PRAYER

 

Priscilla Shirer on Gideon

 

Priscilla Shirer Discusses the 5 Ps of Bible Study.mov

 

He Speaks To Me In this video Priscilla says,  “He Speaks To Me’ is about preparing ourselves, positioning ourselves to hear the voice of our Savior.”

 

Speak Lord

 

Priscilla Shirer – Founders Week 2014

 

Priscilla Shirer announcing being at Joel Osteen’s Lakewood Church along with Beth Moore and Christine Caine

 

Priscilla Shirer with Joyce Meyer

 

An example of Joyce Meyer‘s False Teachings

 

‘Stewarding the Presence’ – Priscilla Shirer at Brian Houston‘s Hillsong Conference 2011

 

Chris Rosebrough Sermon Reviews — Warning people about the dangers of Brian Houston:

FIGHTING FOR THE FAITH: BEREAN ADVISORY: BRIAN HOUSTON

 

Priscilla Shirer – along with Beth Moore (another teacher that is highly promoted at Harvest Bible Chapel, and many other churches, as well) and many others — made a DVD entitled, BE STILL,’ in which the main message is ‘how to hear from God.’

Time With God – Excerpt from the DVD ‘Be Still’

INFORMATION CONCERNING ‘CONTEMPLATIVE PRAYER’ IN THE ‘BE STILL’ DVD:

‘LIGHTHOUSE TRAILS RESEARCH PROJECT’ –  ‘BE STILL DVD’

Though we are not to judge the heart and motives of a Christian, or where they stand concerning their relationship with Jesus Christ, we are told in  Scripture that we are to ‘make a right judgment,’ and that we are to ‘examine the Scriptures daily to see if what is being said (by those who claim to speak for Christ) is true,’ and how we are to ‘test all things and hold fast to what is true,’  (John 7:24, Acts 17:11, 1 Thessalonians 5:21,22) and we are also told to “earnestly contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints.”  (Jude 3) 

I am sure that most of you have heard the expression, ‘You can’t judge a book by its cover,”  but sometimes the title of a book (or video) can be very telling on what an author is trying to convey through their words.  With that in mind, please take a look at some of the ‘screen captures‘ of Priscilla Shirer‘s books and a comment made by someone who has read her books:

Capture Priscilla Shirer Discerning the Voice of God

Capture Priscilla Shirer's Book 'Can We Talk'.

Capture Review of Priscilla Shirer's Book 'Can We Talk'

Note that Beth Moore wrote the forward to Priscilla’s following book:

Capture Priscilla Shirer 'He Speaks To Me'

Capture Discerning the Voice of God Priscilla Shirer description of bookALL ABOVE QUICK CAPTURES WERE TAKEN FROM AMAZON.COM

Equally telling are the books that someone reads:

Capture Priscilla Shirer's list of books she has readSOURCE

As you can see from the list of books that Priscilla reads, some of them are: The Practice of the Presence of God,’ by Brother Lawrence, Prayer: Finding the Heart’s True Home,’ by Richard Foster, and When the Soul Listens by Jan Johnson.  All three of these writers heavily promote Contemplative Prayer.’  

Here’s a screen shot from Lighthouse Trails Website of Jan Johnson‘s book, ‘When the Soul Listens,’ in which you can clearly see that Jan Johnson indeed teaches ‘Contemplative Prayer.’

Capture Priscilla Shirer reads Jan Johnson's books - quick capture on LHTR of When the Soul ListensSOURCE

**ADDED 3-13-14** And in case you are not aware of what the CLOUD OF UNKNOWING is that is mentioned in Jan Johnson’s book as you can see in the ‘quick capture’ above, below you will see another ‘quick capture’ from a post on Lighthouse Trails in which you can clearly see that it is connected with the mystical and unbiblical practice of Contemplative Prayer.’

Capture The Cloud of Unknowing -Lighthouse Trails ResearchTo continue reading on LIGHTHOUSE TRAILS, click HERE

Sadly, the emphasis today seems to be growing more and more on having ‘experiences with God’ rather than wanting to take the time to study God’s Word in context and teaching it that way, as well.

**UPDATED 3-13-14 1:22 P.M.  Because there is obviously a shift taking place from learning about God through His Word to seeking to ‘hear God speak,’ it is very obvious now why so many are easily being led into accepting unbiblical and mystical practices such as ‘Contemplative/Centering Prayer.’  But there is no excuse for any Christian to fall for these spiritually deceptive practices if we stay in God’s Word and test everything in light of Scripture and become informed about these unbiblical practices. There are many good websites with great information on these topics. Personally, I highly recommend the writings of: PASTOR GARY GILLEY,   LIGHTHOUSE TRAILS,  HERESCOPE, and APPRISING MINISTRIES, because they are Biblical and write in depth about all of these unbiblical practices, as well as expose those who promote them. But as always, please make sure that you test everything against Scripture! (Acts 17:11, 1 Thessalonians 5:21,22)

I am sure that Priscilla is probably a lovely person, but what she sometimes presents in her teachings can be very misleading, and has the potential of leading many Christians away from Biblical truth and into unbiblical ‘new age’ mysticism!  To hear a teacher present to you that ‘you can hear God personally speak to you’ is to imply that God’s Word is no longer sufficient, and will lead many away from Biblical truth and into ‘spiritual deception.‘  (Such as Sarah Young is doing through her Jesus Calling devotional).

Harvest Bible Chapel and other Christian leaders must not only make sure that they teach solid Biblical truth, but also they must make sure that the teachers they invite do as well, and that the Bible Studies they present to their people focus on God’s Word and that they believe in the sufficiency of Scripture and teach that God’s Word is all we need to come to know God in a very deep and personal way, and that none of them promote unbiblical mystical practices.  [Which reminds me to warn all of you at HBCRM that James MacDonald will be speaking at a Pastor’s Conference in June entitled SHOW US YOUR GLORY, along with Francis Chan and Rick Warren!  About this conference we are told that many…

“…have been working, praying and planning to create a meeting where the presence of God is experienced in a life changing powerful way.”  (Emphasis is mine). 

And since Rick Warren promotes Contemplative Prayer,’ is it possible that some of their plans may include unbiblical mystical practices since they desire to  ‘experience the presence of God?’  Lord willing, I may write on that after it takes place –if I am somehow able to view that conference. As I mentioned in a couple of my other posts, ‘we are seeing James becoming more and more involved with Rick Warren,’ and that gives many of us good reasons to become seriously concerned and equally motivated to pray even more for James!

Please continue to pray for James and all those in leadership, not only at Harvest Bible Chapel Rolling Meadows, but also for all Christian pastors and teachers.  Pray discernment for them and  that they would seek God in His Word and not be led astray by those who promote unbiblical ways to “hear from God.”

Pray discernment for all Christians so that they will hunger for God’s Word, and pray that the Holy Spirit will ‘guide them into all truth,’  (John 16:13) so they will not be led into spiritual deception.  God’s Word warns us in 2 Timothy 4:3 and 1 Timothy 4:1:

“For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine.  Instead to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.” 

“The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.”

That time is clearly upon us!  Please do not be deceived!  Please…

“Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” ( 2 Timothy 2:15)

Thank you for stopping by and taking time out of your busy day to read some of my posts and poems.

God Bless You

~Mary Dalke/Living4HisGlory

 

RELATED SCRIPTURES

“In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days He has spoken to us by His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, and through whom also He made the universe. The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of His being, sustaining all things by His powerful Word.” (Hebrews 1:1-3a)

“Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there be a falling away first…”  (2 Thessalonians 2:3)

“Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.” (Acts 17:11)

“Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage–with great patience and careful instruction.  For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine.  Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear want to hear.  They will turn their ears from the truth and turn aside to myths.”  (2 Timothy 4:2-4)

“All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training in righteousness.” (2 Timothy 3:16)

“As for you, see what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father.  And this is what He promised us –eternal life. I am writing these things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray.  As for you the anointing you received from Him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you.  But as His anointing teaches you about all things, and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit–just as it has taught you, remain in Him.”  (1 John 2:24-26)

FURTHER READING

PASTOR GARY GILLEY — DISCERNMENT AND REVELATION (INFORMATION ALSO ON BETH MOORE)

PASTOR GARY GILLEY — SACRED READING (LECTIO DIVINA)

RECOMMENDED BOOK

Capture Gary Gilley IS THAT YOU, LORD

COMING SOON:

BEFORE RESURRECTION SUNDAY/EASTER 2014  –LORD WILLING:

MY TESTIMONY: FROM FEAR AND UNCERTAINTY, TO PEACE AND ASSURANCE — HOW GOD REVEALED THE TRUTH TO ME AS I WAS READING A CATHOLIC NEW TESTAMENT BIBLE – PART 2′

**UPDATED 3-13-14 9:17 P.M** ADDED RELATED SCRIPTURES AND ‘IS THAT YOU, LORD?’ VIDEO

**UPDATED 3-13-14 1:22 P.M.** ADDED LINKS TO WEBSITES THAT EXPOSE ‘CONTEMPLATIVE PRAYER’ AND OTHER FORMS OF UNBIBLICAL MYSTICAL PRACTICES THAT ARE MAKING THEIR WAY INTO THE CHURCH, AND A FEW MORE COMMENTS.

**UPDATED 3-13-14 12:51 P.M.** ADDED INFORMATION FROM LIGHTHOUSE TRAILS ON THE ‘CLOUD OF UNKNOWING’ WHICH IS IN ONE OF THE BOOKS THAT PRISCILLA SHIRER READS.

**UPDATED 3-13-14 9:08 A.M.** ADDED INFORMATION ABOUT PRISCILLA SHIRER CONCERNING HILLSONG CONFERENCE AND JOYCE MEYER

 

Capture I the LORD do not changeIf there’s one thing we can rely on these days in spite of the fact that our world is changing so drastically, it’s the ‘unchanging’ nature of God and the ‘unchanging’ truth of God’s Word –the Bible (though I must add that ‘The Message’ and ‘The Voice’ translations are excluded as being ‘God’s Word’ because of the ‘new age’ terminology and the distortions of Scriptures presented in these versions). 

Sadly, however, many of us who are true Christians — born of the Spirit of God —  are also seeing many of our once strong and committed pastors and teachers beginning to change, as well.  And these changes are not for the better!  Instead of a pastor focusing on the importance of his role to ‘preach the Word’ of God and to ‘equip the saints’ and trust God to grow the church as He has always been faithful to do in the past, they have been led into falling for worldly strategies of growing the church by non-Christians such as Peter Drucker.  Rather than ‘contending for the faith’ they now are not only uniting with some pastors and teachers  (who many have serious concerns about)  at conferences, but also they are placing some of these ‘pastors’ in their own pulpits! 

Some are even involving themselves with unbiblical, and even demonic, mystical, spiritual practices such as ‘breath prayers,’ ‘contemplative prayer,’ ‘visualization techniques,’ –occultic practices often cloaked in Christian terminology claiming to allow the ‘Christian’ to ‘hear from God‘ or to ‘connect with God on a deeper, more intimate level.’  (Much more on this in an upcoming post —Lord willing).  God’s Word is no longer seen as the way to hear from God…now it’s all about ‘experiences.’  But to those who are not cautious and who fail to continually test things in light of Scripture, these techniques will lure them in and lead them astray.

How could it be that so many pastors and teachers are going astray?  Is it for the love of money, position, or power?  A ‘mid-life crisis’ maybe? What sin is at the root of all these serious changes we are seeing? 

Is it pride that has caused many of them to close their ears to not only the pleadings of their people to disassociate with certain pastors, but also to the legitimate and serious concerns their people are expressing to them?

God’s Word gives us a picture of the condition  that this world will be in before the return of Christ, as well as Scriptures that give an alarmingly accurate picture of ‘Christianity’ today.  Here are just a few of them:

“For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.” (Luke 21:10,11)

“Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, and saying, Where is the promise of His coming?  For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.” (2 Peter 3:3,4)

“This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.  For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God; having a form of godliness but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.” (2 Timothy 3:1-5)

“Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there be a falling away first…”  (2 Thessalonians 2:3)

“Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils.”         (1 Timothy 4:1)

**UPDATED MON. 2-17-14 6:20p.m.** May I suggest to you that the reason many of us are seeing pastors and teachers who once strongly stood for Biblical truth without wavering, is because many are choosing to  –compromise.  Take for instance, Pastor Greg Laurie.  When he preached a sermon he always gave a clear gospel presentation complete with making each listener understand they must be willing to repent; to turn from sin and follow Christ, and I believe he still does.  However, there are other things Greg Laurie is doing that gives many of us valid reasons to be concerned.  I’ll share one example with you that I found out from speaking to a person I met on the Internet who left Greg Laurie’s church.  This person told me at the end of 2012 that they “saw signs of spiritual formation in junior high and up.” 

If you are not aware of what Spiritual Formation is, I highly recommend this article (and all the articles) by Pastor Gary Gilley SPIRITUAL FORMATION

Below is a portion of that article that explains the philosophy of Spiritual Formation:

“The Spiritual Formation Movement is concerned more about individual experience than biblical knowledge or truth.  This does not mean that adherents are totally uninterested in the Bible, and some would know it well.  But the emphasis is on what a person experiences through the Bible more so than what they learn.  Contemplatives, such as Dallas Willard and Richard Foster, will strongly encourage Bible reading and prayer but they mean something different from what most Christians mean when they reference the same terms.  As we will see in future articles, contemplative prayer is not the same as prayer defined biblically; “sacred reading” (also called “lectio divina” of Scripture is not the same as Bible study; meditation (mystically encountering God) is not the same as knowing God and so forth.  Many of the same terms are used, but as the classical liberals, and the more recent emergents, are fond of doing, they take our terms, including biblical ones, and give them new definitions and twists.” 

Now back to what I was saying about Greg Laurie: When I first became a Christian and didn’t yet have a full-time job, I would eagerly get up early every morning to hear him preach on the radio instead of sleeping for an extra hour or so.  Never did I think the day would come when he would give in to compromise!  However…one day when I got up in the morning and turned on my computer, I saw the following video on YouTube:

Here is the late Pastor Chuck Smith (who sadly, also gave in to compromise) introducing Rick Warren as his “good friend” at —Greg Laurie’s Harvest Crusade in 2009:

For those of you who are still unaware of the serious concerns that many of us have with Rick Warren, I urge you to watch this video that I added to many of my other posts, as well, because of the detailed and very important information this video contains on Rick Warren:

**ADDED 2-17-14** And then there’s Francis Chan.  I never heard of him before until my former pastor, James MacDonald, recommended his book ‘Crazy Love‘ one Sunday during his sermon.  I did a ‘search’ on him that day to find out who he was, and at first he just seemed like a very humble man who desired to wholeheartedly seek after God and live an extremely simple life in order to give to the poor.  However, as time went on he began to get involved in promoting the unbiblical practice of  ‘Lectio Divina‘ along with Lecrae, Beth Moore, Louie Giglio, and John Piper at the Passion 2012 Conference.  After reading portions of Ephesians, each speaker would stop and say things like this: 

Beth Moore: “Without any comment, please, let’s pause and be still and ask Jesus to speak His Word to us.”  Let’s pause, be still, and let God’s Word speak to us.” 

Lecrae: “Pause, reflect, and hear from the Lord.” 

John Piper: “Let’s be quiet and ask the Lord to speak.” 

You can’t see it in the video above, but at this conference they had a banner in the background that said “Jesus, speak to me.”  In my search to document that for you, I came across the following, thanks to Ken Silva of Apprising Ministries:

Capture Jesus Speak To Me - Passion 2012 Conference SOURCE :APPRISING MINISTRIES – BETH MOORE AND JOHN PIPER LEAD LECTIO DIVINA – LITE AT PASSION 2012

Didn’t God’s Word already speak to them? They just read the whole book of Ephesians out loud, so for them to say to “Be still, and let God’s Word speak” seems to imply they are desiring to hear more than what can be learned by examining the passage of Scripture in context to see what God already said to us through His Word in this particular book, this one being Ephesians. Though God may speak to someone on extremely rare occasions, they are presenting this as a normative practice to be embraced by all Christians.  Everything God wants us to know has already been recorded in His Word, the Bible, and Jesus was God’s final Word to us:

“In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days He has spoken to us by His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, and through whom also He made the universe.  The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of His being, sustaining all things by His powerful word.” (Hebrews 1:1-3a)

Also, I had heard that there were some who attended Passion 2012 who left there doubting their salvation because they didn’t hear Jesus personally speak to them.  It was mainly because of what Louie Giglio said to them at this conference.  Once again, in my search to find what Louie Giglio actually said so I could share it with you, I found that on the same post by Ken Silva.  These are the words of Louie Giglio at the close of session 5:

“How many of you heard the voice of God speak specifically, clearly, directly, and personally, to you? Can you just put a hand up?  I’d like you to share it.  Can you put a hand up for a minute? 

Just want you to look around; that’s people saying, “God Almighty (pause) the Maker of heaven (pause) the one Who’s sitting on the only throne (pause) that’s not under threat (long pause, audience cheers) –He spoke to me. He spoke to me.”

“God spoke to me.”  (long pause)  Don’t let the voice of the darkness, tell you that you are not (pause) worth (pause) that God would not speak to you.  (pause)  Don’t let him tell you, you don’t matter.  (pause) God spoke to you.” (SOURCE) Apprising Ministries

Then, to make matters even worse, on December 30, 2013, Francis Chan chose to take part in an event at IHOP (International House Of Prayer), where he openly praised its leader, Mike Bickle, thus giving credibility to Mike Bickle and IHOP.  If you are not aware of the unbiblical teachings of Mike Bickle, as well as the unscriptural manifestations and even deadly things that have taken place within this movement, I strongly urge you to watch this video and read the articles below it:

ARTICLE: LOVE AND DEATH IN THE INTERNATIONAL HOUSE OF PRAYER

**UPDATED 2-19-14** EXCELLENT AND THOROUGH ARTICLE FROM THE HERESCOPE BLOG: THE PASSION OF THE PRESENCE

When we as Christians — especially pastors — consider getting involved with another pastor, teacher, or a movement claiming to be ‘Christian,’ we have the God-given responsibility of testing everything in light of Scripture (Acts 17:11, 1 Thessalonians 5:21,22) and we also  need to seriously consider the warnings of those who know more than we may know about a certain person or movement, and check it out before choosing to get involved.  But sadly, as you can hear in the very beginning of the video I posted above, Francis Chan ignored the warnings he received and chose to publicly proclaim to those in attendance at that IHOP event,  the following:

“This is the first time I’ve ever been to an IHOP event.  Which is..it’s kinda crazy to me because I didn’t know that much, and, you know, so I kinda went on the Internet and started looking things up  and, I go ‘man there’s a lot of great things going on here. ‘ And today’s was the first time I ever met Mike Bickle, and, I love that guy.  I do.

There’s people that told me not to…hang out with him.  Like, you know, you know, words like creepy come up and yet I get to know this guy and I’m going,  “Man I love his heart.”  And I just want to publicly say, I love Mike Bickle.”

Then there’s Mega-pastors, Steven Furtick  of Elevation Church in Charlotte N. Carolina, and Perry Noble of Newspring Church in S. Carolina.  Both of whom my former pator, James MacDonald, is  deeply involved with.  I’ll start with Steven Furtick.

INFORMATION CONCERNING STEVEN FURTICK: 

As I shared with you in my >WARNING YOU WITH TEARS< post, Steven Furtick took James MacDonald’s place in the pulpit on August 14, 2011 when James was on his summer break.  Steven Furtick was also one of the pastors who took part in the ‘Elephant Room Conference,’  an idea that James MacDonald had that could have turned into something good, but instead ended in disaster.  (You can also read about that on the previously mentioned post).  I had never heard of Steven Furtick before all of that took place, so I cannot comment on how he was when he first started out, but I can share with you what is presently happening that many find rather disturbing.  Below is something I again found posted by someone on Twitter.  You can find this posted on Elevation Church’s Website.  Read all the points below and see if you find some of their reasons just a little bit disturbing as many other people do –including me:

Capture Reasons Elevation Church is the Best Place to Work

Capture ELEVATION CHURCH COLORING BOOK

Just now (1:47p.m. 2-19-14) I found the above picture through a tweet on Twitter by Stand Up For The Truth.’  This is an illustration from a coloring book at ‘Elevation Church‘ called ‘The Code,’ in which it appears that at a very early age, the children — along with the adults at ‘Elevation Church‘ — are learning that:

Elevation Church is built on the vision God gave Pastor Steven.”  And that Elevation Churchwill protect our unity in supporting his vision.”  

I don’t know about you, but I find this rather creepy and downright disturbing!  SOURCE

There’s so much information coming out on Twitter concerning Steven Furtick and Elevation Church that I’m finding it hard to keep up!  Here’s something else for you to take a close look at; ‘The Code‘ for Elevation Kidz that Steven Furtick wants them all to learn:

Capture elevation kids - the code

(SOURCE) FOUND IN TWEET POSTED BY CHRIS ROSEBROUGH

1. We are a generation of honor

2. We act in audacious faith

3.We eat the fish and leave the bones

4. We are known for what we are for

5. We lead the way in generosity

Don’t you find it rather concerning that Jesus isn’t even mentioned in the Kidz Code?

STEVEN FURTICK ADDRESSING ELEVATION CHILDREN TO LEARN ‘THE CODE’

Just searched YouTube and found this precious little girl, Isabella, who seems to know ‘the code’ quite well:

Please pray for the children and families at Elevation Church.  One can only hope and pray that the children at ‘Elevation‘ are learning that our lives should be built upon Christ and His Word as our solid foundation!  (Matthew 7:24-27) (1 Corinthians 3:10,11)  Somehow by all this new information, I am finding it very hard to believe, because the focus clearly is more on Steven Furtick and Elevation Church rather than on Jesus Christ and His Word.

Here are two more“creepy,” things that I heard concerning Steven Furtick and Elevation Church while listening to Chris Rosebrough of Fighting For The Faith:

IN THE VIDEO BELOW, CHRIS ROSEBROUGH DISCUSSES ‘VISION CASTING’ WITH ‘ISSUES, ETC.’S,TODD WILKEN.  AT THE 29:10 MARK YOU WILL HEAR THE ‘CREEPY’ CODE FOR STEVEN FURTICK’S, ELEVATION CHURCH, AT 43:10 MINUTE MARK YOU WILL HEAR JAMES MACDONALD SPEAKING TO A GROUP OF PASTORS ABOUT WHAT TO DO WITH THE ‘DIVISIVE’ MAN, AND  AT THE 45:45 MINUTE MARK YOU WILL HEAR WHAT MARK DRISCOLL HAS TO SAY CONCERNING THOSE WHO WILL OPPOSE THE ‘VISION’ OF MARS HILL CHURCH.  NOTE THE EVIL IN HIS VOICE AS HE SPEAKS.  THOUGH I FIND ALL OF THESE CLIPS DISTURBING, MARK DRISCOLL’S CLIP IS THE MOST DISTURBING AND CLEARLY HIS ATTITUDE DOES NOT REFLECT CHRIST AT ALL!

CLICK BELOW TO LISTEN TO CHRIS ROSEBROUGH’S DEC. 16th 2013 PROGRAM:

>>STEVEN FURTICK’S CREEEEEEEPY COMEDY<<

At the links below, you will read about some more disturbing information concerning Steven Furtick and Elevation Church that I also found today on Twitter.  More and more we are seeing manipulative tactics being used on people who attend mega-churches in order to bring about the results that only God can produce in a person’s heart.  Clearly and sadly, many ‘pastors’ today view the church simply as an organization or corporation, and they are using the strategies of men to produce growth and results.  May God bring all who participate in things similar to this to true repentance, for they will stand before a Holy God one day and give an account for all they have done and their motives for doing so, as will each and every one of us have to do. (1 Corinthians 3:12-16)

MORE REASONS TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT STEVEN FURTICK:

HOW ELEVATION CHURCH PASTOR FURTICK PRODUCE SPONTANEOUS BAPTISM – BY STUART WATSON<

HOW STEVEN FURTICK ENGINEERED A SPONTANEOUS MIRACLE – BY JAMES DUNCAN OF ‘PAJAMA PAGES’ BLOG

I must admit that over the 14 1/2 years that I attended Harvest Bible Chapel Rolling Meadows, Pastor James would frequently have ‘spontaneous baptisms’ as Steven Furtick does at Elevation Church.  Sadly, it wouldn’t surprise me if the same manipulative tactics that are clearly used at Elevation Church are also used at Harvest Bible Chapel.

AT THE 45 MINUTE MARK AT THE LINK BELOW, CHRIS ROSEBROUGH POINTS OUT THE SERIOUS AND EVEN BLASPHEMOUS THINGS STEVEN FURTICK SAYS IN AN INTERVIEW WITH SANDY KRAKOWSKI CONCERNING HIS NEW BOOK, ‘CRASH THE CHATTERBOX’

CHRIS ROSEBROUGH — FURTICK’S CHATTERBOX BLASPHEMY

STAND UP FOR THE TRUTH PODCAST – WHEN DOES A CHURCH CROSS INTO A CULT

**UPDATED 3-4-14** FINAL POINT WHY YOU SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT STEVEN FURTICK:

Last year at the ‘Holy Trinity Brompton  Leadership Conference,’ Steven Furtick said the following starting @4:15:

“I feel real strongly what God put in me to give to you tonight…”  “So I want to share with you…tonight from the Old Testament book of 2 Kings, and I want to share with you about a transitional moment in the life of Elisha the prophet.  And if you’ll stay with me in this sermon…I don’t know that you’ll take a lot of notes…usually when I come to a conference like this by this point I feel like I cannot write another thing…I have a notebook full of ideas, and…I feel like I don’t need another piece of information at this point.  So with that in mind, I thought I would get a little bit beyond the information realm, and…maybe we can move together tonight into a time of impartation (someone cheers at this point) and then maybe together we can see if  God would bring us into a… an encounter  with Him before we leave this place that…will change us and change our world.” (applause) SOURCE

In case you’re wondering why what Steven Furtick said should be very concerning, and in case you’re not aware of what ‘a time of impartation’ is to many leaders in the Charismatic Movement, please consider watching the following videos I posted below.  Briefly I will just say that since 1990 Nicky Gumbel has been the leader of the Alpha Course, and Holy Trinity Brompton Church is known for their promotion of the ‘Toronto Blessing‘ which includes ‘manifestations of animal noises,’ people being ‘slain in the spirit,’people acting ‘drunk in the spirit‘, and many other unbiblical manifestations as you will see in the second video that I posted below.

BENNY HINN HAVING A TIME OF IMPARTATION:

SHOCKING DOCUMENTARY BY ANDREW STROM:

ALPHA –  ATTEND OR AVOID – CECIL ANDREWS – PART 1 OF 2

Is it possible that Steven Furtick has gotten involved with these types of manifestations since he has become involved with Nicky Gumbel?  I am only speculating at this point, but it really makes you wonder why he used the term ‘a time of impartation‘ instead of ‘a time of prayer.’

**UPDATED 2-20-14** INFORMATION CONCERNING PERRY NOBLE:

Just as with Steven Furtick, I never heard of Perry Noble until information came out concerning the first ‘Elephant Room Conference‘ in which he took part in along with Steven Furtick and others.  As many in the ‘Church Growth Movement‘ do, Perry Noble chooses to use worldly methods to appeal to unbelievers in order to bring them into the church.  And in April of 2009 he chose to play AC DC’s song, ‘Highway To Hell‘ at his Easter Service at Newspring Church.  His reason for doing so, however, does not line up with what he declared during the ‘Elephant Room Conference.’  In the video below you will hear not only a short clip from ‘The Elephant Room Conference‘  in which Perry Noble explains his reason for doing so, but also you will hear him explain to his whole church congregation the reason why he played ‘Highway to Hell‘ for his Easter service.  His reason seems quite clear by what he says, but ultimately God will be the one who will judge his motives:

After listening to what he says in the video above, I encourage you to listen to the entire segment that took place during the Elephant Room Conference at the first link below where you can hear James MacDonald, Mark Driscoll, and Perry Noble discuss his decision to play that song in church:

SHOULD CHURCH LEADERS PLAY “HIGHWAY TO HELL” TO REACH UNBELIEVERS – CHURCHLEADERS WEBSITE

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**UPDATED 2-28-14** INFORMATION CONCERNING JAMES MACDONALD:

Then there’s my former pastor, James MacDonald of Harvest Bible Chapel, Rolling Meadows, whom I deeply appreciated because of his strong stand for Biblical truth and how he would preach God’s Word without apology.  After leaving my former Assembly of God Church of 16 years because the leadership was beginning to get involved with the ‘Pensacola revival,’ I was finally beginning to trust a pastor again, and felt assured that James would be a pastor who would never give in to compromise.  However, as many of us now know, sadly he did begin to change.  If I had to pinpoint exactly when he started to change, I can say without a doubt it was right after he came back from staying with Greg Laurie when he was having his cancer treatments.  And by reading some comments on The Elephant’s Debt and comments on some of the posts on Blood Stained Ink, I know that many other people who used to attend HBCRM (and some who still attend) have come to that same realization.  Whether Greg Laurie influenced him in some way, or someone else did, it was obvious to many of us that he was no longer the same James MacDonald that we once knew and looked forward to hearing when he preached almost every Saturday evening and Sunday morning.  He changed so much that one morning as I heard him preaching I actually had these thoughts: 

“Who are you, and where is the real James MacDonald?  Did someone clone him and replace the real James with his clone?” 

One day when I was doing a ‘search’ on the Internet, I came across the following article which made me laugh:

CAREFULLY SCRIPTED ELEPHANT AVOIDANCE — E R SAGA (PART 3) — BY CAMERON BUETTEL

It was rather comforting knowing now that I wasn’t the only one who had some outlandish thoughts about James because the changes in him were so obvious and rather concerning!  In the article above which was written on February 10th 2012, Cameron Buettel said the following:

“It would seem that my theory about the real James MacDonald being abducted by aliens some time last year is not as far fetched as my doubters first thought.  Of the multitudes of weird things James MacDonald has done over the last year or so, perhaps the most alarming was his invitation to TD Jakes to attend his Elephant Room Conference where “brothers” discuss their methodological differences.” (SOURCE)

Yes, Cameron, I am in total agreement!  And  because of what happen that night concerning T D Jakes   —  as I explained in detail in my WARNING YOU WITH TEARS post — I did not return to Harvest Bible Chapel, Rolling Meadows — my church of over 14 1/2 years — ever again.

**UPDATED 2-27-14** As previously mentioned, James came up with the idea of the ‘Elephant Room Conference.’  We then began to see James form a close bond (or should I say they formed a “tribe,” as they referred to it in these ‘Elephant Room’ conferences) with pastors that many of us have valid concerns about: Mark Driscoll, Steven Furtick, Perry Noble…and then in ER2 there was T D Jakes –a known Modalist.  An idea that could have been amazing if James would have firmly, but lovingly held each pastor accountable to God’s Word and challenged them in certain areas where they were compromising, sadly ER2 ended in disaster because of how TDJakes was basically declared as having embraced the Biblical understanding of the Trinity, when it was obvious to many Biblical scholars who examined all that he had said that night that he was still using the language of a Modalist.  (Please consider listening to the many videos I added on my ‘Warning You With Tears’ post that examine all that T D Jakes said at ‘ER2’ in light of Scripture and in light of how one who does not believe in the Doctrine of the Trinity describes God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit). And even though James did stand his ground concerning Perry Noble’s idea of playing ‘Highway To Hell’ and constantly and firmly said it “was a bad idea,” and said,  “”I just don’t get it at all,”  and “The message of ‘Highway To Hell’ is blatantly offensive,” if you listen to the link I posted above — ‘Should Church Leaders Play ‘Highway To Hell’ To Reach Unbelievers,’ —  after James continued to listen to Perry Noble justify his reasons for playing it, near the end you will sadly hear James suddenly begin to change his once firm stand on his strong opposition to it.  Towards the end of the video after listening to Perry Noble constantly defend his decision to play ‘HTH’, he asks Matt Chandler if he would play ‘HTH’ in his church, and then James says the following: 

“He’s really making me think.  I gotta say that.  I mean he’s really making me think… he has a strategy, it’s thought through…he believes it honors God, he doesn’t think he’s compromising in any way.” Like he is on it with a passion, and a reason, and defending it –toe to toe.” …”He’s thought it through very carefully” 

After Matt Chandler expresses concern about the possibility that pastors may fly into license; all things are permissible,’ James says:

“To me personally I would never allow something that so defames the glory of God and the reputation of Jesus.  I would not allow it in my service.  Unclean!  I would not allow it.” 

Concerning Perry Noble’s decision to play ‘Highway To Hell,’ Mark Driscoll asked James: 

“…do you think it was a sin against God?” 

James replied:

“…I don’t doubt his motives and I definitely don’t think it was sin for him to do it…” 

“Here’s my thought on the subject for what it’s worth:  I’m already being instructed by this.  Frankly I’m not surprised, but I’m blessed by the sincerity, and the intentionality with which you’re doing the things that you’re doing.  Like I’m instructed by that.  I’m going have to think about that –some more.  My perspective is this:  If it doesn’t adorn the gospel…it’s the beauty of Christ that’s at stake in everything we do.  The glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.” (Then quotes 2 Corinthians 3:18 )

“If it doesn’t adorn the beauty of God’s great Son, if it doesn’t display Him and show Him off…it’s the manifest presence  of God in the service which is the powerful life changing element.   I believe that if it doesn’t adorn the gospel it doesn’t advance the gospel.  We may see fruit…some fruit from it…we may draw people with it, we may draw decisions with it…and I’ll say it as simply as I know how in summary: I do think that if it doesn’t adorn the gospel, it doesn’t advance the gospel.”

Perry Noble says, in part:

…I think it was used to adore, and be used to advance the gospel because the song was redeemed.”

James replied:

“I’m gonna just say that I’m really blessed by you right now because your…your thinking is a lot different that I thought it was gonna to be.  I think you’re wrong about it.  But you really have thought it through…as you said, ‘we prayed on it’…”  “I’m just gonna stand on that point… if it doesn’t make Jesus more beautiful to people it’s not advancing our mission.”  ” If it’s not elevating God and God’s glory and God’s great Son then it’s not advancing the mission.  I really struggle with this idea that to be-in order to connect people  with Christ you have to be like them.  That ‘I gotta become like them to reach them’ is something that uh…I’m just not there yet.”

Perry: 

That’s what Jesus did.”

James: 

“Yeah?” (Silence for 3 seconds, and then James says:  “That would take another session.” 

James:

All right.  Fantastic.  Let’s wrap it up.” 

And then that particular ‘conversation’ came to an end.

These conferences seemed more like ‘Hegelian Dialectic‘ sessions where the goal is to wear down those with opposing views so they conform to the beliefs of the majority.  Did you notice how James would have his focus on Scripture, and yet notice how many times “I think”  was said instead of them keeping their focus on the truth of God’s Word and the Holiness of God and the reverence that we should have in our times of worship.  A shift began to take place where the belief of playing something so horrendous in a church as ‘Highway To Hell‘ was slowly becoming a possibility…at the very end it seemed that James might possibly consider trying to ‘be like them to reach them‘ with maybe a little more time and a little more thought.

We cannot be led by our feelings or our own ideas and justify something by simply saying, “We prayed about it.”  Our standard to judge what’s right and wrong must always be God’s Word, and we must never lose sight of the fact that God is pure and completely Holy and our worship we give to Him must be nothing less than that; pure and completely holy! 

“…worship God acceptably with reverence and awe, for our God is a consuming fire.”  (Hebrews 12:28,29)

If you are not aware of what the Hegelian Dialectic Process is, I highly encourage you to watch the following video: 

Just think of the many who attended ER2 in January 2012 or watched by live stream and walked away that night believing that TD Jakes indeed is a “brother-in-Christ.”  Think of those who bought the DVD’s, and those who are not firmly grounded in the truth of God’s Word who may even begin to  listen to his sermons and be caught up in his ‘Word of Faith‘ false teachings, which is another serious error in T D Jakes‘ teachings that James and the other pastors chose not to address and confront him on that night.  Those of us who are ‘born of the Spirit,’ must be Bereans and examine the Scriptures daily to see if what is being said (and done by those who claim to speak for God) is true,’  (Acts 17:11) so that we will not be deceived.  We are not to trust in men but in God alone.  Pastors and teachers are to follow Christ and His command to ‘preach the Word,’ and to ‘go and make disciples,’ and not be led astray by following the dictates of their deceitful hearts.

Not only have  some people lost sight of the Holiness of God, but also many have lost their fear of God.  Profanity in the pulpit is a common occurrence in many churches today, when God’s Word clearly says otherwise, concerning the speech and conversations of those who profess to be followers of Christ and leaders in the church, as you can see from some of the Scriptures I posted further down.

When friendships with certain people begin to eclipse our ability to discern, and if our acceptance by others slowly becomes more important that our desire to honor and please God, you can be sure that it will be the beginning of a continuous downward spiral.  And that is what I believe we are all witnessing concerning James and many pastors and teachers today –compromise for the sake of ‘unity’  and acceptance which not only causes one to harden their heart against the warnings and truth presented in God’s Word, but also hinders them from discerning truth from error. 

Here’s another example:  In January, James went away for some rest.  And by his tweet below you can see that on one of those days he attended Perry Noble’s Newspring Church.  And concerning Perry Noble’s new series on ‘CHANGE,’ he said the following:

Capture James MacDonald at New Spring Church Jan. 12, 2014

I haven’t yet listened to the actual sermon that James listened to on that particular Sunday, but it was entitled: Three Things That Must Happen For Change To Happen.’  If you’d like, you can go to Newspring Church’s website and listen to it in light of Scripture (Acts 17:11) and come to your own conclusion.

If you’d like to listen to a Biblical analysis of one of Perry Noble’s sermons in his series on Change, you can listen to Chris Rosebrough of Fighting For The Faith,’ at the link below.  That will give you a glimpse into how Perry Noble misapplies Scripture, and will also leave you wondering why James would publicly tell his followers on Twitter that one of Perry Noble’s sermons is “great.”  Maybe that particular one was, but by all the other ones I have heard him  ‘preach,’ I am sorry to say that it is highly unlikely that it was.

MISADVENTURES IN BAD HERMENEUTICS – PERRY NOBLE TURNS JOHN 3:16 INTO A TITHING TEXT

Here’s an example of how Perry Noble clearly takes  Scriptures out of context.  In this video Perry takes Scriptures that can only apply to Jesus and applies them to Steven Furtick!  It is not a stretch at all that Chris Rosebrough entitled the following video, THE BLASPHEMOUS GOSPEL OF STEVEN FURTICK BY PERRY NOBLE’

Another concern we should have with James and his involvement with — and promotion of — Perry Noble, is the fact that Perry Noble promotes the book, SACRED MARRIAGE by Gary Thomas.  In the following video Perry says:

It is the best book on marriage written,” and “…very excellent information that everybody needs to hear”

And in case you’re wondering why Perry Noble promoting that book by Gary Thomas is concerning to many, please consider reading the following articles at Lighthouse Trails at the link below this ‘quick capture‘ and you will understand why you should be concerned about Perry Noble or any pastor promoting a book by Gary Thomas.  Here’s an excerpt from one of those articles which clearly reveals why many are concerned about the unbiblical and even mystical teachings that Gary Thomas presents in his books:

Capture GARY THOMAS SACRED MARRIAGE AND MYSTICISMSOURCE

ARTICLES AT LIGHTHOUSE TRAILS-GARY THOMAS SACRED MARRIAGE AND MYSTICISM

 

SCRIPTURES FOR YOU TO REFLECT ON

“Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights who does not change like shifting shadows.” (James 1:17)

“He who is the Glory of Israel does not lie or change His mind; for He is not a human being, that He should change His mind.” (1 Samuel 15:29)

“I the LORD do not change.” (Malachi 3:6a)

“People swear by someone greater than themselves, and the oath confirms what is said and puts an end to all argument.  Because God wanted to make the unchanging nature of His purpose very clear to the heirs of what was promised, He confirmed it with an oath.  God did this so that, by two unchangeable things in which it is impossible for God to lie, we who have fled to take hold of the hope set before us may be greatly encouraged.  We have this hope as an anchor for the soul, firm and secure.”                    (Hebrews 6:16-19a)

 

**2-9-14 ** PLEASE READ THESE SCRIPTURES WITH THIS QUESTION IN MIND: DO THE QUALITIES IN SOME OF THESE SCRIPTURES DESCRIBE MY PASTOR?

“To the elders among you, I appeal as a fellow elder and a witness of Christ’s suffering who also will share in the glory to be revealed: Be shepherds of God’s flock that is under your care, watching over them–not because you must, but because you are willing, as God wants you to be; not pursuing dishonest gain, but eager to serve; not lording it over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock.” (1 Peter 5:1-3)

“Here is a trustworthy saying: Whoever aspires to be an overseer desires a noble task.  Now the overseer is to be above reproach, faithful to his wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.  He must manage his own family well and see that his own family obey him, and he must do so in a manner worthy of full respect.  (If anyone does not know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of God’s church?) He must not be a recent convert, or he may become conceited and fall under the same judgment as the devil.  He must also have a good reputation with outsiders, so that he will not fall into disgrace and into the devil’s trap.”  (1 Timothy 3:1-7) 

“An elder must be blameless, faithful to his wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient.  Since an overseer manages God’s household, he must be blameless–not overbearing, not quick-tempered, not given to drunkenness, not violent, not pursuing dishonest gain.  Rather he must be hospitable, one who loves what is good, who is self-controlled, upright, holy, and disciplined.  He must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so he can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it.” (Titus 1:6-9)

“The elders who direct the affairs of the church well are worthy of double honor, especially those whose work is preaching and teaching.  For Scripture says,  “Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain,” and “The worker deserves his wages.”  Do not entertain an accusation against an elder unless it is brought by two or three witnesses.  But those elders who are sinning you are to reprove before everyone, so that the others may take warning.  I charge you in the sight of God and Christ Jesus and the elect angels, to keep these instructions without partiality, and to do nothing out of favoritism.” (1 Timothy 5:17-21)

“So Christ Himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, to equip His people for works of service, so the body of Christ may be built up until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fulness of Christ.  Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of people in their deceitful scheming.  Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of Him who is the head, that is, Christ.” (Ephesians 4:11-15)

“I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned.  Keep away from them.  For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites.  By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people.” (Romans 16:17,18)

“Therefore, I declare to you today that I am innocent of the blood of any of you.  For I have not hesitated to proclaim to you the whole will of God.  Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers.  Be shepherds of the church of God, which He bought with His own blood.  I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock.  Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them.  So be on your guard!  Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears.” (Acts 20:26-31)

“Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the Word of truth.”  (2 Timothy 2:15)

“In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His kingdom, I give you this charge: Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke, and encourage–with great patience and careful instruction.  For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine.  Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.  They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.” (2 Timothy 4:1-4)

“For I am afraid that when I come I may not find you as I want you to be, and you may not find me as you want me to be.  I fear that there may be quarreling, jealousy, outbursts of anger, factions, slander, gossip, arrogance and disorder.” (2 Corinthians 12:20)

“You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good.  For out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks.  The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in him.  But I tell you that man will have to give an account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken.  For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.” (Matthew 12:34-37)

“Be imitators of God, therefore, as dearly loved children.  And live a life of love,just as Christ loved us and gave Himself up for us as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.”  But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people.  Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or course joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving.  For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure, or greedy person — such a man is an idolater — has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.  Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God’s wrath comes on those who are disobedient.  Therefore do not be partners with them.  For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord.  Live as children of light (for the fruit of the light consists in all goodness, righteousness, and truth) and find out what pleases the Lord.  Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.  For it is shameful to even mention what the disobedient do in secret.  But everything exposed by the light becomes visible, for it is light that makes everything visible.  This is why it is said,  “Wake up, O sleeper, rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you.”  Be very careful, then, how you live — not as unwise but as wise, making the most of every opportunity, because the days are evil.”  (Ephesians 5:1-16)

“But now you must rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger, rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips.”  (Colossians 3:8)

“Let your conversations be always full of grace, …so that you may know how to answer everyone.”  (Colossians 4:6)

“Do not keep talking so proudly or let your mouth speak such arrogance, for the LORD is a God who knows, and by Him deeds are weighed.”                     (1 Samuel 2:3)

“To fear the LORD is to hate evil; I hate pride and arrogance, evil behavior and perverse speech.”  (Proverbs 8:13)

“When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes wisdom.”  (Proverbs 11:2)

“He who guards his lips guards his life, but he who speaks rashly will come to ruin.” (Proverbs 13:3)

“Pride only breeds quarrels, but wisdom is found in those who take advise.” (Proverbs 13:10)

“Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall.”             (Proverbs 16:18)

“A man’s pride brings him low, but a man of lowly spirit gains honor.” (Proverbs 29:23)

“The eyes of the arrogant man will be humbled and the pride of men brought low; the LORD alone will be exalted in that day.” (Isaiah 2:11)

“The pride of your heart has deceived you, you who live in the clefts of the rocks and make your home on the heights, you who say to yourself, ‘Who can bring me down to the ground?’  (Obadiah 1:3)

“The Word of the LORD came to me:  “Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel; prophesy and say to them: “This is what the Sovereign LORD says,  “Woe to you shepherds of Israel who only take care of yourselves!  Should not shepherds take care of the flock?  You eat the curds, clothe yourselves with the wool and slaughter the choice animals, but you do not take care of the flock.  You have not strengthened the weak or healed the sick or bound up the injured.  You have not brought back the strays or searched for the lost.  You have ruled them harshly and brutally.  So they were scattered because there was no shepherd, and when they were scattered they became food for all the wild animals.  My sheep wandered over all the mountains and on every hill.  They were scattered over the whole earth, and no one searched or looked for them.  Therefore, you shepherds, hear the Word of the LORD:  As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, because my flock lacks a shepherd and so has been plundered and has become food for all the wild animals, and because My shepherds did not search for My flock but cared for themselves rather than My flock, therefore, you shepherds, hear the Word of the LORD:  This is what the Sovereign LORD says:  I am against the shepherds and will hold them accountable for My flock.  I will remove them from tending the flock so that the shepherds can no longer feed themselves.  I will rescue My flock from their mouths, and it will no longer be food for them.  For this is what the Sovereign LORD says: I Myself will search for My sheep and look after them.  As a shepherd looks after his scattered flock when he is with them,  so will I look after My sheep.  I will rescue them from all the places where they were scattered on a day of clouds and darkness.” (Ezekiel 34:1-12)

“Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked.  A man reaps what he sows.  Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.” (Galatians 6:7,8)

**UPDATE 2-9-14** If you have read all the Scriptures above, then please click HERE, and if your pastor is  JAMES MACDONALD OF HARVEST BIBLE CHAPEL ROLLING MEADOWS, please take the next hour or so to listen to his message from the ‘ACT LIKE MEN’ CONFERENCE in its entirety. 

If you have been one of those who have ignored the serious concerns that many of us have tried to warn you about concerning James MacDonald’s character, and how much he has changed, after listening to his message can you now honestly say that his character and speech honors Christ and matches the Biblical description of an elder?If you are a man and you brought your son or a man you were sharing Christ’s love and the gospel with to this conference, would you be proud of the speech of your pastor, or cringe and feel ashamed?  Or more importantly, what do you think Jesus thought of his message?  Did James truly glorify God with his whole message, or did he compromise in order to please men? 

Since James has become very good friends with Mark Driscoll — who is sadly referred to by many as “the cussing pastor,” — maybe he has been wrongly influenced by his behavior.  However, there is no excuse for James speaking as he did at the ‘Act Like Men‘ conference.  He knows full well how our speech and our behavior as a follower of Christ is to reflect Christ and not reflect the behavior of the world.

James’ brother is in extremely critical condition after suffering a massive stroke, and I am deeply sorry to hear that and am praying for him, but this issue needs to be dealt with and not ignored!

SECOND ITEM OF CONCERN:

A long time former member of Harvest Bible Chapel Rolling Meadows informed me that HBCRM sent out a very lengthy letter to those who have recently left Harvest.  (I have not received one yet.  Maybe they are sending letters only to those who have not already let them know why they have left).  Below is a ‘quick capture‘ of a condensed summary giving just the main highlights in the letter that this person received from HBCRM and was nice enough to share with me by email:

Capture HBCRM LETTER MAILED TO THOSE WHO HAVE LEFT HARVEST

So, former Harvesters, what would it take for you to return?  Would you even consider returning?  Would you return if James sincerely repented for the reasons that caused you to leave?  Are you planning on responding to this letter?  I would love to hear your thoughts.

Someone who just read the recent HBCRMElder’s Update‘ informed me of the fact that James has agreed to take a pay cut and made many other commendable ‘lifestyle adjustments.’  But is this enough?  True change takes place in the heart when godly sorrow grips a person and they realize the wrong they have done and ask forgiveness from those they have offended and sinned against.  Are we seeing these changes take place in the heart and words of James?  Only God knows his heart, so we must not judge his intentions, but the evidence of true repentance must be more than superficial changes.

The elder update also speaks of “accountability between senior staff and Elder board,“and “the priority of seeking reconciliation in relationships with former church leaders.”  All good steps in the right direction, for sure!

But what about the ”ELDER VIDEO” in which the character of men were destroyed in front of all who attended Harvest that day?  What kind of impression did ‘first time visitors’ have if they attended that particular day? Below is a ‘quick capture’ of a review of HBCRM on ‘yelp,’ given by a person who attended HBCRM only a few times, and one of those times he attended was the day the ‘Elder Update‘ video was played for the entire congregation.  I accidentally came across this a couple of weeks ago:

Capture Review of HBC on yelp

The ‘elders video,’ incident  was bad enough, but what do you think a first time visitor thought if they came to HBCRM on Easter Sunday 2013 when James chose to preach on –money??!!  I never would have thought that James would have passed up an opportunity to preach the gospel on such a perfect day as the day we celebrate the Resurrection of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!  How utterly sad and even possibly blasphemous that he would choose to do such a thing!  Truly James has changed!

Personally, I would not return even if he had a sincere change of heart and repented and asked forgiveness from all the people he has hurt, although I am still continuing to pray that one day that will indeed happen. 

Even though I have forgiven James and long to be with some of my friends who are still there, I have found a church where the pastor has served faithfully for many years, and who preaches verse by verse without taking any verses out of context, or distorting it in order to add his own agenda.  My new pastor preaches every Sunday and does not get involved with pastors who distort the Word of God.  My new pastor knows me by name, and has talked with me almost every Sunday over the two years that I have now been there since leaving HBCRM.  I have even had lunch with my pastor and his wife and daughter, and he kindly and generously paid for my lunch.  Sadly, James would not even know me by name, even though I was a member for over 14 years and sat in the front of church within the first three or four rows, Sunday after Sunday.  A smaller, more intimate church where they sing hymns with lyrics that praise God, giving Him all the glory He is SO deserving of, and where people know one another and encourage one another has been the kind of church I have now found, and I am very happy and at peace there.  No more waiting for James to change and going home every Sunday feeling discouraged and righteously angry because of how he used certain Scriptures to insult those of us who have discernment and instead he labeled us as being “divisive.”

Please keep James and his brother in your prayers as I will be doing.  It is not my intent to “bash” James— it saddens me to post this, especially knowing his brother is now in such serious condition, but I found this audio from the ‘Act Like MenConference before I heard about his brother, and had been planning on updating this post with more information since I wrote it on Jan. 23, 2014.  My sole intention of adding the audio clip is that I am hoping and praying that God will use it to help those of you who are not only continuing to cling to the idea of “how much James has accomplished in the past,” but also to help those of you who are refusing to listen to the concerns that many have expressed on ‘The Elephant’s Debt,’ (especially on their latest and possibly last post —TO EVERY SEASON’ ).  It is my prayer that many of you will finally realize — after first reading the Scriptures I posted and then listening to his message — that indeed the character of James does not line up with the godly character traits that an elder must have according to God’s Word, and that all of you will begin to think and pray about what God would have you to do.

Scott and Ryan have shed light on many serious concerns regarding the conduct and character of James MacDonald.  Many godly men have come forward to give their statements concerning why they have left, and they have shared their personal stories of their experiences with James.  It’s time that all of us get our focus on Jesus, and not on any man and his ministry.  It’s time to examine the evidence and seek God in prayer for answers and wisdom as to what He would have you all to do.

Men, no matter who your pastor is, you are ordained by God to be the spiritual leader for your family.  You will have to stand before God one day and give an account for how you have led your wife and your children spiritually, so please make sure you are testing all the messages that your pastor is preaching against the Word of God, (Acts 17:11) and if necessary, find a new church home where the Word of God is accurately preached and the pastor’s character reflects the character of Christ Himself.

HBCRM members and attendees, spend time praying for God to change James’ heart, but seek God as to how much longer He would have you wait to see true repentance take place.  Or maybe in your time of prayer He will lead you to begin a search to find a new church where the pastor is accountable to godly men who have been appointed as elders by the votes of members of the church, and where the pastor will be faithful to preach God’s Word and will not give in to compromise.

**UPDATED 3-5-14** 7:05 p.m.** IN CLOSING

There was a time when most men of God were faithful to the call of God to go and preach the gospel and make disciples and correct and rebuke those who were in error.  But sadly today some pastors simply view the church as an ‘organization’ and some even go as far as saying, “I think that Jesus is the product” (that they attempt to sell) as T D Jakes stated in the following interview:

Many mega-pastors use worldly marketing strategies and some use feel-good messages that appeal to the desires of their ‘consumers’ to grow their church instead of preaching a gospel of sin and repentance and the glorious good news of the gospel of God’s mercy and grace.  Many may leave feeling good and many will probably even come back, but without hearing the truth that we are all sinners on the road to a real eternal lake of fire, their ‘best life’ will be only the good they experience here ‘now’ on this earth, and those who have ‘preached’ a ‘gospel’ that has no power to save will have to stand before God one day and answer for what they have done and failed to do.  The blood of their people will be upon their hands. 

And some pastors go to the other extreme and focus more on the law and make their people feel condemned because of their sins, and they do not share the ‘good news’ of the gospel that if they repent and receive what Jesus did when He not only took upon Himself the detestable sins  that we have committed, but also Jesus took upon Himself the full wrath of God that was intended for us because of our sins, and that we can be completely forgiven and clothed in the righteousness of Christ, and our sins will then be as far as the east is from the west, and cast into the depths of the sea.  

Presently we are seeing more and more pastors and teachers focusing on ‘unity’ and focusing less and less on Biblical truth.  Few today are men of God who have remained faithful to preach and to teach God’s Word to their congregations –all because they have not allowed the pressure to conform to the new standards to measure success as a church by, which seems to be,“It’s all about the numbers,” as mega-pastor Steven Furtick has been known to say.  More and more these types of pastors continue to lose sight of their mission of preaching the gospel and equipping the saints, and instead seek to build more and more churches which have become their empires destined to crumble if these pastors do not repent and return to Jesus, their first love.

The true gospel is about preaching sin and repentance to people to make them see their need for a Savior, and realizing that God alone has the power to convict someone of sin and to lead someone to repentance.  To use emotionally manipulating tactics — such as playing music when the pastor is preaching or about to give an altar call, or planting people in the service to come forward so as to motivate others to follow and come forward in an altar call — (as many of us have discovered is being done by seeing the latest news coming out concerning Steven Furtick, Elevation Church, and so-called ‘spontaneous baptisms‘), or to present sermons and music in a worship service that appeals to the sinful nature of men, implies that the good news of the gospel no longer has the power nor is it sufficient any longer to save someone.  And nothing could be further from the truth!

Many pastors and teachers — and all of us who are followers of Christ, for that matter — may start out with pure motives and a heart that desires to follow God without compromise, however, what really matters is how we finish on this road called ‘life.’  This thought came to mind towards the end February of this year as I was doing my daily Bible reading.  As I often do at the start of a new year, I began reading through the Old Testament.  On this one particular day as I was reading through 2 Chronicles, I began to reflect upon the many kings of Israel who started out serving God, but in the end they began to compromise and did not remain faithful to God.  Here are just a few of them:

“Asa did what was good and right in the eyes of the LORD.  He removed the foreign altars and the high places, smashed the sacred stones, and cut down the Asherah poles.  He commanded Judah to seek the LORD, the God of their fathers, and to obey His laws and commands.  He removed the high places and incense altars in every town in Judah, and the kingdom was at peace under him.  Zerah the Cushite marched out against them with a vast army and three hundred chariots, and came as far as Mareshah.  Then Asa called to the LORD his God and said,  “LORD, there is no one like You to help the powerless against the mighty.  Help us, O LORD our God, for we rely on You, and in Your name we have come against this vast army.  O LORD, You are our God; do not let man prevail against You.”  The LORD struck down the Cushites before Asa and Judah.  The Cushites fled, and Asa and his army pursued them as far as Gerar.  “The Spirit of God came upon Azariah son of Oded.  He went out to meet Asa and said to him,  “Listen to me, Asa and all and all Judah and Benjamin.  The LORD is with you when you are with Him.  If you seek Him, He will be found by you, but if you forsake Him, He will forsake you.  But as for you, be strong and do not give up, for your work will be rewarded.”  When Asa heard these words and the prophecy of Azariah son of Oded the prophet, he took courage.  He removed the detestable idols from the whole land of Judah and Benjamin and from the towns he had captured in the hills of Ephraim.  He repaired the altar of the LORD that was in front of the portico of the LORD’s temple.  They entered into a covenant to seek the LORD, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul.  All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman.  They took an oath to the LORD with loud acclamation, with shouting, and with trumpets and horns.  All Judah rejoiced about the oath because they had sworn it wholeheartedly.  They sought God eagerly, and He was found by them.  So the LORD gave them rest on every side.  King Asa also deposed his grandmother Maacah from her position as queen mother, because she had made a repulsive Asherah pole.  Asa cut the pole down, broke it up and burned it in the Kidron Valley.  Although he did not remove the high places from Israel, Asa’s heart was fully committed to the LORD all his life.  “At that time Hanani the seer came to Asa King of Judah and said to him,  “Because you relied on the king of Aram and not on the LORD your God, the army of the king of Aram has escaped from your hand.  Were not the Cushites and the Libyans a mighty army with great number of chariots and horsemen?  Yet when you relied on the LORD, He delivered them into your hands.  For the eyes of the LORD range throughout the earth to strengthen those whose hearts are fully committed to Him.  You have done a foolish thing, and from now on you will be at war.  Asa was angry with the seer because of this; he was so enraged that he put him in prison.  At the same time Asa brutally oppressed some of the people.  The events of Asa’s reign, from beginning to end, are written in the book of the kings of Judah and Israel.  In the thirty-ninth year of his reign Asa was afflicted with a disease in his feet.  Though his disease was severe, even in his illness he did not seek help from the LORD, but only from the physicians.  Then in the forty-first year of his reign Asa died and rested with his fathers.” (2 Chronicles 14:2-5,9-13a,15:1,2,8,9,12-17,16:7-13)

“Amaziah was twenty-five years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem twenty-nine years.  His mother’s name was Jehoaddin; she was from Jerusalem.  He did what was right in the eyes of the LORD, but not wholeheartedly.  When Amaziah returned from slaughtering the Edomites, he brought back the gods of the people of Seir.  He set them up as his own gods, bowed down to them and burned sacrifices to them.  The anger of the LORD burned against Amaziah, and He sent a prophet to him, who said,  “Why do you consult this people’s gods, which could not save their own people from your hand?”  While he was still speaking, the king said to him,  “Have we appointed you as an adviser to the king?  Stop!  Why be struck down?”  So the prophet stopped but said,  “I know that God has determined to destroy you, because you have done this and have not listened to my counsel.”  From the time that Amaziah turned away from following the LORD, they conspired against him in Jerusalem and he fled to Lachish, but they sent men after him to Lachish and killed him there.  He was brought back by horse and was buried with his fathers in the city of Judah.”              (2 Chronicles 25:1,2,14-16,27,28)

“Uzziah was sixteen years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem fifty-two years.  His mother’s name was Jecoliah; she was from Jerusalem.  He did what was right in the eyes of the LORD, just as his father Amaziah had done.  He sought God during the days of Zechariah, who instructed him in the fear of God.  As  long as he sought the LORD, God gave him success.  God helped him against the Philistines, and against the Arabs who lived in Gur Baal, and against the Meunites.  The Ammonites brought tribute to Uzziah, and his fame spread as far as the border of Egypt, because he had become very powerful.  But after Uzziah became powerful, his pride led to his downfall.  He was unfaithful to the LORD his God, and entered the temple of the LORD to burn incense on the altar of incense.  Azariah the priest with eighty other courageous priests of the LORD followed him in.  They confronted him and said,  “It is not right for you, Uzziah, to burn incense to the LORD.  That is for the priests, the descendants of Aaron, who have been consecrated to burn incense.  Leave the sanctuary, for you have been unfaithful; and you will not be honored by the LORD God.”  Uzziah, who had a censer in his hand ready to burn incense, became angry.  While he was raging at the priests in their presence before the incense altar in the LORD’s temple, leprosy broke out on his forehead.  When Azariah the chief priest and all the other priests looked at him, they saw that he had leprosy on his forehead, so they hurried him out.  Indeed, he himself was eager to leave, because the LORD had afflicted him.  King Uzziah had leprosy until the day he died.” (2 Chronicles 27:3-5,7,8,16-21)

After reading all the many accounts of the kings of Israel, suddenly I thought of many popular pastors and teachers who no longer serve God wholeheartedly and who began to change and who have given in to compromise.  These pastors no longer contend for the faith and no longer protect their sheep from false teachers as they once did.  Instead they invite them in to preach from their very own pulpits!  On the day they stand before a Holy God who alone knows their hearts and their motives, it won’t matter how many churches they planted, or how many people came forward in an altar call, or how many came forward to be baptized.  What will matter is did they really place their trust in Christ.  And, if so, were they faithful to preach the gospel without compromise?  Were they faithful to earnestly contend for the faith?  Were they faithful to preach His Word in season  and out of season and teach their people how to rightly divide His Word?  Did they bring correction when it was needed?  Did they expose error and protect their people lovingly and fervently as a shepherd protects his sheep from wolves whose main intent is to kill and destroy them?

Many pastors and teachers — and many ordinary followers of Christ, as well — need to have a fresh realization of the Holiness of God.  Because, sadly, many obviously have lost their fear of God, or they would not be doing some of the many things that they are doing these days and claiming that ‘God told them to do it.’  We all need to have our focus on Jesus Christ alone, and seek Him in His Word alone.

We also need to pray for our pastors and teachers, and pray for one another that God would fill our hearts with repentance and that we would seek Him wholeheartedly so that we will not change along with the culture of this world that is so obviously in rebellion against a Holy God.

A W TOZER – THE HOLINESS OF GOD

 

As always, God has a remnant of believers who will not give in to compromise and who will continue to earnestly contend for the faith.  Will you be one of them?

WHY I WROTE THE FOLLOWING POEM

I began writing this poem a few months ago out of concern because of what I see happening in mega-churches in general.  However, after listening to a video of a sermon from the weekend of January 4th and 5th 2014 preached by James MacDonald — my former pastor for over 14 1/2 years — and hearing how he enticed the people in his congregation by saying,“The biggest miracle that’s ever happened in the history of Harvest Bible Chapel is happening right now,” and how he went on to say that ‘he couldn’t tell everyone about it yet, but would in a few months,’ and upon learning from an ‘inside source‘  at the very end of December that “the [giving] “envelopes” were on every chair as people entered the auditorium,” and that “…the give stage was set from the beginning,” I was then strongly motivated to finish this poem so that I could warn people of not only the manipulative tactics that some pastors use to lure them in and to keep them there, but also I again realized the need to remind people of the importance of  looking to Jesus Christ alone and studying God’s Word so that people would not be deceived by  men and lured and  captivated by their ‘vision casting’ plans that are presented to them by these pastors. Therefore, the following poem has some verses that are much longer than the verses in most of my other poems because whenever I attempt to express my concerns about serious matters, I find it very difficult to condense my thoughts into short verses.  I apologize for how it appears, but I hope the message comes across without the lengthy verses being a distraction to you.

Thank you very much for stopping by and taking time out of your busy day to read some of my posts and poems.

God Bless You

~Living4HisGlory

 

YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN THE FOLLOWING:

**ADDED 2-26-14** THE CULT OF THE VISIONEER – TODD PRUITT, REFORMATION 21 BLOG

**ADDED 3-5-14** PAUL PROCTOR – THE PEOPLE’S CHURCH WILLOWCREEK AND THE CHURCH GROWTH MOVEMENT

**ADDED 2-20-14** PASTOR RANDY WHITE – WHY I LEFT THE CHURCH GROWTH MOVEMENT

SAME INFORMATION AS ARTICLE ABOVE, BUT IN VIDEO FORM BELOW.  ARTICLE READ BY CHRIS ROSEBROUGH OF ‘FIGHTING FOR THE FAITH

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UNCHANGING

I serve a God who is unchanging, His Word is living and complete

Yet some ignore this truth, to seek new revelations and experiences at His feet

Then there’s the mighty mega-pastor, who once lived in humble, simple ways

When asked the reason for his success, he would always give God the praise

A foundation once built on Christ and on His Word alone

Has given way to building using strategies of men, and God’s Word is twisted so his

own agenda can be shown

Many eyes are now being opened, discernment and knowledge are some reasons why

As God’s Spirit and godly men reveal what’s hidden in darkness, the truth is then

hard to deny

Rather than repent, these men seem to just continue to plan and to scheme

They hype up their sheep with hints of exciting things to come; the newest

mega-pastor’s dream

Their hope is to keep the devoted ones coming and giving, so as not to foil their

slightly revealed vision casted plan

Sadly these pastors have drifted far from their calling, to preach God’s Word and to

reveal a Holy God to sinful man

Shouldn’t it be enough to proclaim what Christ has done

To proclaim the unchanging glorious gospel; sin has been atoned for, it is finished,

Christ has won

Shouldn’t we simply bow in humble reverence, and praise His Holy name

And not continually praise how great our church is, and focus on its growth and its

fame

What about instructing their sheep in sound doctrine, and dying to self and turning

from sin

And warning of wolves in sheep’s clothing, instead they’re uniting and inviting them in

God’s Word is unchanging, His truth is what sets men free

But many pastors fail to teach God’s Word or to prepare their people for eternity

Caught up in being relevant and planting churches, many have strayed off the straight

and narrow path

They have changed their once powerful gospel message, without repentance these

pastors will sadly face God’s wrath

Abandoning their sheep, giving in to compromise, no longer faithful to love and to lead

These pastors leave a trail of wounded people, they have turned a deaf ear to the truth

when they plead

There is still hope for change through repentance, if they choose to surrender to

conviction and no longer rebel

If ignored, the cost to themselves and their hearers, will be none other than the

fires of hell

The methods and messages of some pastors truly are changing, but our God is

unchanging and His Word makes it clear

That we must contend for the faith, for deception is great, and proves Christ return is

indeed drawing near

Copyright© 2014 Mary K. Dalke/Living4HisGlory/Living For His Glory All rights reserved.

**UPDATED 3-14-14 6:33 P.M. ADDED LINK TO PASTOR TOM PENNINGTON’S SERMON SERIES ‘WOLVES IN THE PULPIT’ (SEE UNDER ‘YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN THE FOLLOWING.’

**UPDATED AND COMPLETED WEDNESDAY, 3-5-14** 7:17 P.M.

**UPDATED WEDNESDAY 3-5-14 10:00 A.M.** ADDED ARTICLE ON THE CHURCH GROWTH MOVEMENT BY PAUL PROCTOR. SEE UNDER ‘FURTHER READING.’ DATED IN RED.

**UPDATED TUESDAY 3-4-14 6:02 P.M.**  ADDED INFORMATION CONCERNING STEVEN FURTICK.  SEE UNDER ‘FINAL POINT WHY YOU SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT STEVEN FURTICK,’ DATED IN RED.  WILL ADD CLOSING THOUGHTS WITHIN THE NEXT FEW DAYS WHICH WILL FINALLY COMPLETE THIS POST.

**UPDATED SATURDAY 3-1-14 3:30 P.M.**  ADDED SOME CLOSING THOUGHTS.  SEE UNDER ‘IN CLOSING’ AND ‘WHY I WROTE THIS POEM,’ DATED IN RED.  ALMOST FINISHED…JUST A LITTLE MORE TO GO.  LORD WILLING, SHOULD BE COMPLETED BY EARLY NEXT WEEK.

**UPDATED FRIDAY 2-28-14 10:10 P.M.** ADDED SOME ‘CONVERSATION’ BETWEEN JAMES MACDONALD, PERRY NOBLE, AND MARK DRISCOLL FROM ‘ELEPHANT ROOM 1’ CONCERNING PERRY N. PLAYING ‘HIGHWAY TO HELL.’  ( DATED IN RED – SEE UNDER ‘INFORMATION CONCERNING JAMES MACDONALD’)

**UPDATED THURSDAY 2-27-14  9:17 p.m.** ADDED MORE INFORMATION CONCERNING JAMES AND PERRY NOBLE (DATED IN RED) JUST NEED TO ADD MY CLOSING COMMENTS, BUT MAY NOT BE ABLE TO FINISH TOMORROW.  HAVE AN IMPORTANT FAMILY MATTER TO ATTEND TO THAT CAME UP.  LORD WILLING, I WILL COMPLETE THIS POST WITHIN THE NEXT FEW DAYS.  THANK YOU FOR STOPPING BY, AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

**UPDATED WEDNESDAY 2-26-14 9:00 p.m.**  ADDED ARTICLE ‘THE CULT OF THE VISIONEER’ BY TODD PRUITT UNDER ‘FURTHER READING,’  SOME INFORMATION CONCERNING JAMES MACDONALD, AND AN ARTICLE CONCERNING JAMES BY CAMERON BUETTEL.  (DATE IN RED).  LORD WILLING, I AM HOPING TO COMPLETE THIS POST BY THE END OF THIS WEEK.  THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

**UPDATED FRIDAY 2-21-14 12:00 P.M**. ADDED ‘STAND UP FOR THE TRUTH’ PODCAST CONCERNING STEVEN FURTICK -“WHEN DOES A CHURCH CROSS INTO A CULT” AND VIDEO OF STEVEN F. ENCOURAGING ‘ELEVATION CHILDREN’ TO LEARN ‘THE CODE.’

**UPDATED THURSDAY 2-20-14 9:13 P.M.** ADDED MANY LINKS TO INFORMATION ON PERRY NOBLE, PERRY NOBLE VIDEO, ARTICLE BY DR. RANDY WHITE CONCERNING THE ‘CHURCH GROWTH MOVEMENT.  (DATED IN RED).

**UPDATED WEDNESDAY, 2-19-2014** ADDED  INFORMATION ON STEVEN FURTICK AND ELEVATION CHURCH, AND MORE ON FRANCIS CHAN.  ALSO ADDED LINK (COLORED IN RED) TO THE ‘ELDER  VIDEO.’ ALL INFORMATION DATED AND COLORED IN RED.  THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

**UPDATED MONDAY, 2-17-14 6:20p.m.** ADDED MORE INFORMATION ABOUT GREG LAURIE AND INFORMATION ON FRANCIS CHAN.  SEE INFORMATION DATED 2-17-14

** UPDATE 2-15-14 9:26 P.M.**  I WAS HOPING TO FINISH THIS POST BY TODAY, BUT THERE WAS SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT I NEEDED TO TAKE CARE OF FIRST.  LORD WILLING, I HOPE TO FINALLY COMPLETE THIS POST BY WEDNESDAY.  ONCE AGAIN, I AM VERY SORRY, AND APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE.

**UPDATED 2-12-14**SEE UNDER THE FIRST SET OF SCRIPTURES. DATE IN RED.  LORD WILLING, HOPE TO HAVE THIS POST COMPLETED BY THE END OF THIS WEEK

**UPDATED 2-9-14 9:01 p.m.**  ADDED LINK TO JAMES MACDONALD’S MESSAGE FROM HIS ‘ACT LIKE MEN’ CONFERENCE WITH SOME THOUGHTS FOR YOU TO PRAYERFULLY PONDER, AS WELL AS A HBCRM REVIEW I CAME ACROSS ON ‘YELP,’ AND INFORMATION ON A LETTER RECENTLY SENT TO MANY WHO HAVE LEFT HBCRM.  (ALL UPDATES DATED IN RED

UPDATE 2-6-14  3:32P.M. ADDED MORE SCRIPTURES**  WILL TRY TO COMPLETE POST WHEN TIME ALLOWS…NEED TO CATCH UP ON SOME THINGS FIRST.  THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

UPDATE 1-31-14 11:38A.M.**  FOR THE PAST WEEK I HAVE BEEN GATHERING INFORMATION TO SUPPORT SOME OF THE COMMENTS I WILL BE ADDING TO FINALLY FINISH THIS POST.  LORD WILLING, I HOPE TO HAVE EVERYTHING I AM SEARCHING FOR — AND THIS POST COMPLETED — BY EARLY NEXT WEEK –MAYBE SOONER.  THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

 

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INTRODUCTION

First I want to say, “I’m sorry” to all of you for not writing anything lately.  To be honest with you, it’s been rather difficult to find the time to even have a few minutes to concentrate and get my thoughts together to write a post or poem since I lost my job of 13 years at the end of October.  I am still searching for a new job, and have had no replies from anyone on the two sites where I posted my resume’, but in Christ’s strength I continue to press on. 

In spite of everything I have been going through lately, I completely stand in awe of the peace that God has given me, and that’s what inspired me to write the following poem so that I can give God the glory for blessing me with His perfect peace that allows me to rest in Him and sleep peacefully every night.  Yes, I did have a few brief moments of crying out to God for His wisdom on what to do and where to go, and I may possibly still have a few of those moments in the days (hopefully not weeks and months) to come, but because I have built my life on Christ as my firm foundation, my faith and trust in Him has not been shaken.

As I was writing this poem I also thought of the many who do not know Jesus and the hope and peace that comes from having a personal relationship with God through Him…people who have been devastated by physical, sexual, and verbal abuse…people who have tragically lost a loved one to death or an accident, and they have been hurt so deeply that they lash out at God instead of crying out to Him for His comfort and His help…people who hate themselves because of some of the wrong choices they have made and they want to end their lives because they can’t go back and change the past.  With all of that in mind, I addressed these brokenhearted people in the final six verses of the following poem, and pray that if anyone who has been devastated by life’s painful circumstances does find their way to my blog,  that God will somehow use my poem — and especially the Scriptures — to bring hope and comfort to their broken and shattered heart.

Thank you very much for stopping by and taking time out of your busy day to read some of my poems and posts.

An early ‘Merry Christmas’ to all of you!

God Bless You

~Mary Dalke/Living4HisGlory/Living For His Glory


 

SCRIPTURES FOR YOU TO REFLECT ON

“For unto us a child is born, unto us a child is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, the mighty God, the everlasting Father the Prince of Peace.” (Isaiah 9:6) KJV

“For  He Himself is our peace, who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, by setting aside in His flesh the law with its commands and regulations.  His purpose was to create in Himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace, and in one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which He put to death their hostility.  He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near.  For through Him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit.”  (Ephesians 2:14-18)

“Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand.”  (Romans 5:1,2a)

“Come to Me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.  Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.  For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”  (Matthew 11:28-30)

“Peace I leave with you; My peace I give you.  I do not give to you as the world gives.  Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid.”         (John 14:27)

“I have told you these things, so that in Me you may have peace.  In this world you will have trouble.  But take heart!  I have overcome the world.”  (John 16:33)

“Rejoice in the Lord always.  I will say it again: Rejoice!  Let your gentleness be evident to all.  The Lord is near.  Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God,  And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.”  (Philippians 4:6,7)

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A PERFECT PEACE

Amidst deep feelings of rejection, there remains a perfect peace
Untouched by man’s cruel endeavors, I now see as God’s instruments of release
A perfect peace that only comes from knowing that God is in control
His peace silences every fearful thought that comes, and stills my very soul
Like the perfect peace that filled many hearts when Christ was born that starry night
The fulfillment of many prophecies, hope was born and fear gave flight
The Messiah, the Promised One, who came to free us from our sin
And clothe us in His righteousness, and transform our hearts within
He took on flesh so willingly, and willingly laid down His life for you and me
So that those who’d place their trust in Him would be forgiven and set free
Jesus bore the full wrath of God for all our sin, though Pilate fought for His release
So the barrier of sin would be removed, and with God, His Father, we’d then have
perfect peace
A peace beyond human comprehension, no matter what circumstances one may face
His strength made perfect in our weakness, and sufficient is His grace
A peace not based on mere emotion, but rooted in Christ and in His Word
For we stand on Christ, our firm foundation, unshaken by what we see or what we’ve heard
We can have the calm assurance that God works all things together for our good
Even when we pray and trust, and things still don’t turn out as they should
Is your life in utter chaos, do you think He’s unaware…
Of all the pain you hold inside, do you believe He doesn’t care
Do you shake your fist at God, have you even convinced yourself He isn’t real
Have unspeakable tragedies severely affected how you see things, and how you feel
Cry out to God to know what’s true, turn from sin; find sweet release
You’ll receive His healing love and complete forgiveness, and you too can have…a perfect
peace

Copyright©2013 Mary K. Dalke/Living4HisGlory/Living For His Glory All rights reserved.

Scriptures taken from The Holy Bible New International Version® 1973, 1978, 1984 International Bible Society Used by permission of Zondervan.  All rights reserved.
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