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What was it that Jesus Christ, God in human flesh, did when He was upon the cross that fully satisfied God the Father’s wrath and His just demands to pay for all of our sins and to provide for our salvation? Was it enough that Jesus shed His blood and died in our place after taking upon Himself the full wrath of God that we deserved because of all of our sins, (as well as bore our griefs and our sorrows) as it says in Isaiah 53? Or did Jesus Christ also have to die spiritually as some professing Christian pastors and teachers tell us today? Regarding 2 Corinthians 5:21, did Jesus actually become sin as many pastors and teachers also teach and as many of us hear stated in some songs that are presented to us to sing at our churches (which I refuse to do) during worship time? (Chris Tomlin’s, ‘Jesus Messiah,’ Kristyn Getty’s ‘Power of the Cross,’ etc. ) These are very important issues! Teaching and believing that Jesus died spiritually has an extremely damaging impact upon the Biblical gospel as presented to us in God’s Word because the focus is taken off of what God demanded as payment for sin and what Jesus truly accomplished by His shed blood and physical death that completely satisfied God, His Father. I hope that you will take time out of your busy schedule to read this post and to check out the very important information that I have linked to for you below when time allows you to do so.

Many of you are aware of the false teaching that those in the ‘Word of Faith‘ movement, such as Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland, Joyce Meyer, Fred Price, and others present when they say that ‘after Jesus died physically He also died spiritually and descended into hell where He was tormented by the demons, and became the first ‘born again’ man.’ If not, please take a few minutes to listen to one example in the following video:

However, this Jesus Died Spiritually (JDS) teaching that I am speaking of in this particular post is different in many ways and is presently being taught by some well respected professing Christian teachers and pastors! I personally heard two different pastors teach this on one particular Sunday (December 10th 2017) as I was looking for a sermon to listen to since I was, and presently still am, churchless. I was shocked and quite stunned because I had never heard this being taught by those whom I believed presented Biblical Christianity.

The first time that I heard this being taught was while I was watching a live streamed service from Duluth Bible Church, and it was said right before their communion service. Although this may not be an exact quote (because they deleted that portion of their service when they uploaded it onto YouTube), it was very close to what I heard Pastor Dennis Rosker say:

‘It wasn’t Jesus’ physical death that brought about our salvation, it was His spiritual death that did.’

I was completely shocked to hear him say that!

After I listened to him for a couple of more minutes to make sure that I understood him correctly and in context, I shut off this live streamed service and then decided to listen to another pastor that I had been listening to at that time –Pastor Greg Durel, of Heritage Bible Church. This particular sermon was entitled, ‘Who Did Jesus Claim To Be?’ This was a prerecorded sermon, so you can imagine how shocked I was to hear him say almost the same exact thing when he spoke of the spiritual death of Jesus Christ! Below is a written portion from that sermon which is an exact quote from a portion between the 25:31 minute mark and the 27:30 minute mark. You can listen to his whole sermon or just listen to the three minute portion which will be enough for you to hear what he says concerning Jesus dying spiritually in context.

SERMON – WHO DID JESUS CLAIM TO BE? (SOURCE)

“Now, John 19:30, Christ, human plus deity. Understand, God in the flesh. 100% human, 100% God. He  had to be 100% human otherwise, what did He prove? He’s tempted in all points in His humanity as we are, yet He never transgresses. So He’s sinless. So He’s going to offer Himself as the sin offering, the Lamb of God. Now, He’s on the cross and He dies spiritually, during the course of time when He says, “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?” We understand that to mean that the humanity of Christ, in some form or fashion, experiences separation, spiritual separation, from the deity of Christ. The penalty for sin is spiritual death, the consequence of the byproduct of spiritual death is physical death. Remember, the day Adam sinned he died. How? Spiritually. The byproduct was hundreds of years later he died physically. That’s what has to be corrected. The spiritual death has to be paid for. If that’s paid for then we don’t experience spiritual death, we can have eternal life with the Lord. Why? Because our sins have paid for, by whom? By Christ.”

Let’s take a few minutes and examine what Greg Durel said in light of Scripture. (Acts 17:11)

Yes, Jesus Christ was 100% God and 100% man. (John 1:1, Hebrews 1:1-13, Philippians 2:5-11, Colossians 1:15-19)

Yes, Jesus Christ lived a sinless life and became our sin offering; the Lamb of God. (1 Peter 2:22, 1 John 3:5)

No. Nowhere in Scripture does it say that Jesus died spiritually.

No. Nowhere in Scripture can we find anything to even hint at the humanity of Jesus Christ separating from the deity of Christ. That would have divided the Trinity; the oneness/unity of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Many try to use the Scripture in Habakkuk 1:13 that says the eyes of the LORD are “too pure to look upon evil,” so he turned away from His Son, when, as some (wrongly) teach, He became sin. We must not add to God’s Word — or take away from it — in order to make it say what it does not clearly say. (Deuteronomy 4:2, 12:32, Revelation 22:18)

Yes, the penalty for sin is spiritual death, the byproduct being physical death, however, this applies only to Adam and Eve and passed on to all humanity because of their choice to sin. Jesus Christ never sinned, and thus He did not die — or have to die — spiritually. Jesus’ shed blood and His physical death was all that God required to pay the debt for all sin.

“For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit.” (1 Peter 3:18)

In the sermon series exposing this unbiblical JDS teaching that I have linked to for you below, Pastor Tyler goes into this much deeper by explaining that Jesus was fulfilling Psalm 22 when He cried out on the cross:

“My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?”(Matthew 27:46, Mark 15:34)

God did not turn His back on His Son. Pastor Tyler goes on to clearly show from Isaiah 53:11 that God, His Father, actually saw Jesus as He hung on the cross:

He shall see the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.” (Emphasis added).

Using many other Scriptures in his sermon series he also shows that this is why it is necessary for people to accept the unbiblical teaching that Jesus literally became sin, in order to accept the unbiblical teaching that Jesus died spiritually).

Continuing on:

After hearing that same false teaching a second time from Greg Durel within just minutes after hearing it the first time, I then knew that God was trying to clearly show me just how prevalent this false teaching is becoming, and realized that I needed to write about this not only to warn Christians, but also in order to expose this false teaching and to “earnestly contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints.” (Jude 3)

A related side note:

A few years before I permanently left Harvest Bible Chapel Rolling Meadows (the church I called home for 14 1/2 years – June 1997-January 2012 , right after ER2), I remember Pastor James MacDonald taught this in one respect when I heard him say something very similar and equally disturbing during a *sermon regarding what Jesus said to God, His Father, when He prayed on the Mount of Olives:

“Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me, yet not my will, but yours be done.” (Luke 22:42)

What I heard James MacDonald clearly and loudly say during his sermon raised an immediate red flag, brought many Scriptures to mind to refute what he said, and caused me to jump and my eyes to open wide out of shock. He said:

“What was  in the cup? He saw Himself becoming sin!”

Hearing him say that troubled me so much that I left Harvest and did not plan on returning! Jesus did not literally become sin or He would not have been the perfect, spotless Lamb of God. He was our sin offering (Isaiah 53:10). He bore our sins (1 Peter 2:24), our sins were placed upon Him (Isaiah 53:6), but He did not literally become our sin; our sin was imputed to Him, just as the righteousness of Jesus Christ is imputed to those of us who choose to place our trust in the once for all sacrifice of Jesus Christ as being sufficient to pay the debt for all of our sins and guilt –in full! *[Sermon by James MacDonald that I am referring to was preached on Nov. 17, 2008]

After that incident I did a search to find some information regarding 2 Corinthians 5:21 and came upon an article written by Ron Rhodes. Here is a portion of his article:

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When I first became a Christian my first Bible study teacher presented us with a very good teaching in which she shared many Scriptures and explained to us from the Old Testament regarding the scape goat and how one was to be sacrificed to the LORD for a sin offering, and the sins of the people were  spoken over the second goat and then it was released into the desert as a scape goat, and how it was foreshadowing the day when all of our sins would be laid upon Jesus Christ, the perfect, spotless Lamb of God, who would take away the sins of the world. (Read Exodus 12, Leviticus 4:3, 23,33 Leviticus 16:6-10, Isaiah 53)

Regarding this teaching of Jesus becoming sin, I took some time to search the Scriptures and to write down many of them that show Jesus Christ was sinless: Isaiah 53:9, 2 Corinthians 5:21, Hebrews 4:14-16, Hebrews 7:26, 1 Peter 2:22, 1 John 3:5

I also searched through the Scriptures for instances where the word “cup” was used in that type of context in order to see what God’s Word revealed about it and found the following verses that clearly show, in most cases, that “the cup” is symbolic of God’s judgment, fury, or wrath:

Awake, awake, stand up, O Jerusalem, which hast drunk at the hand of the LORD the cup of his fury; thou hast drunken the dregs of the cup of trembling, and wrung them out.”(Isaiah 51:17)

“Thus saith thy Lord the LORD, and thy God that pleadeth the cause of his people, Behold, I have taken out of thine hand the cup of trembling, even the dregs of the cup of my fury; thou shalt no more drink it again.” (Isaiah 51:22)

“For thus saith the LORD God of Israel unto me; Take the wine cup of this fury at my hand, and cause all the nations, to whom I send thee, to drink it.” (Jeremiah 25:15)

“Then took I the cup at the LORD’S hand, and made all the nations to drink, unto whom the LORD had sent me.” (Jeremiah 25:17)

“And it shall be, if they refuse to take the cup at thine hand to drink, then shalt thou say unto them, Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Ye shall certainly drink.” (Jeremiah 25:28)

“For thus saith the LORD; Behold, they whose judgment was not to drink of the cup have assuredly drunken; and art thou he that shall altogether go unpunished? thou shalt not go unpunished, but thou shalt surely drink of it.” (Jeremiah 49:12)

“Thou art filled with shame for glory: drink thou also, and let thy foreskin be uncovered: the cup of the LORD’S right hand shall be turned unto thee, and shameful spewing shall be on thy glory.” (Habakkuk 2:16)

“Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.” (Zechariah 12:2)

“The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

“But Jesus said unto them, Ye know not what ye ask: can ye drink of the cup that I drink of? and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? And they said unto him, We can. And Jesus said unto them, Ye shall indeed drink of the cup that I drink of; and with the baptism that I am baptized withal shall ye be baptized.” (Mark 10:38,39) *(See more information concerning this verse a little further in this post that I marked with an asterisk).

“And he took the cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them: and they all drank of it.” (Mark 14:23)

“The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb.” (Revelation 14:10)

*If indeed “the cup” symbolized Jesus becoming sin or spiritual death, as some teach, then, as Pastor Tyler Leigeb correctly reasons (in his three part sermon series that I posted for you below regarding the false JDS teaching), the meaning in the passage of Scripture below would then be that the disciples would lose their salvation, and that simply cannot be true:

“But Jesus said unto them, Ye know not what ye ask: can ye drink of the cup that I drink of? and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? And they said unto him, We can. And Jesus said unto them, Ye shall indeed drink of the cup that I drink of; and with the baptism that I am baptized withal shall ye be baptized.” (Mark 10:38,39)

During the time after I left Harvest I attended another church for a few months, but ended up returning to Harvest (for two more years, all the while praying for change) simply because I couldn’t find a Biblically solid church to attend after something happened at that church that caused me to believe that I couldn’t trust the leadership there either.

Now back to the main topic of this post:

After listening to the second sermon that one Sunday in December of 2017, I quickly messaged one of my dear friends who also (once) appreciated the teachings coming from Duluth Bible Church, and I expressed my deep concerns to her about what I had heard Pastor Dennis Rosker say, as well as what Pastor Greg Durel had said, and I continued to express my concerns with her for the next couple of days. I also made it clear to her that what they were teaching was different in some ways than what the false teachers in the Word of Faith Movement, such as Joyce Meyer, Kenneth Copeland, Benny Hinn, etc., teach. Being the Berean (Acts 17:11) that she is, she contacted Duluth Bible Church via email to ask Pastor Rosker about this to receive clarification on what he had said. Below I have shared her email interaction with one of the pastors at Duluth Bible Church with my friend’s permission, but removed her last name to protect her privacy:

As you can (hopefully) see from Pastor Stegall’s reply to my friend’s email above, even though he makes it abundantly clear that he “categorically rejects the Word of Faith view,” (something I never claimed that Pastor Rosker taught), he admits — without apology–  that the pastors of Duluth Bible Church do hold to a  belief “about the “spiritual” aspect of Christ’s death,” thus admitting that they believe Jesus died spiritually as well as physically. Note also what Pastor Stegall goes on to say concerning what they do believe about the spiritual aspect of Christ’s death:

“….the view we hold and teach is the view held by the vast majority of grace oriented, dispensational, non-charismatic Bible teachers over the last century.”

In the next paragraph Tom Stegall clearly denies that what he and Dennis Rosker “believe about the spiritual aspect of Christ’s death” is a “false view of Christ’s death” after at least one blogger, it seems, took the time to shed light on this teaching in order to expose it as error. One of them being Jim Floyd, the author of the book, ‘The Perfect Sacrifice,’ (which I have linked to below).

What seems like an attempt to discredit Jim Floyd’s Biblically based belief that “Christ died only physically on the cross,” Tom Stegall goes on to say:

“I don’t know of any other Bible teachers of any prominence who holds Jim’s view.”

Tom Stegall then basically accuses Jim Floyd of attacking their ministry and wrongly labeling them as false teachers by saying:

“I’m not sure why Dennis and I have been targeted and labeled with teaching a false view on this subject since the view we hold (and have always held) is simply the mainstream view among sound Bible teachers…”

Dear reader, we cannot base what we hold to believe upon the teachings of men, but rather we are to test the teachings of men against the truth of God’s Word — in context — and compare Scripture with Scripture. No matter how well known and respected a pastor or Bible teacher may be, we must reject everything that does not line up with Scripture.

Throughout Scripture we are urged and shown to test everything in light of Scripture:

“Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Abstain from all appearance of evil.” (1 Thessalonians 5:21,22) (KJV)

“Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.” (Acts 17:11) (NIV 1984)

“Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” (2 Timothy 2:15) (KJV)

God’s Word also shows us that we are to expose error and warns us about those who will falsely teach God’s Word: (Ephesians 5:11, Acts 20:26-31, Romans 16:17,18, 2 Corinthians 11:4, 2 Peter 2:1, 1 Timothy 4:1)

When Jesus’ disciples asked Him about the signs that would signal His soon return and the end of the world, Jesus lists spiritual deception as the first sign:

“And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.”

For Jesus to list deception first should alert us to the importance of being on guard against being deceived.

Even though some who teach that ‘Jesus died spiritually’ (JDS) do not teach that Jesus went to hell, was tormented by demons, and became the first born again man, as those in the Word of Faith movement do, what they do teach contradicts the clear teachings in God’s Word that say it was His shed blood and the physical death of Jesus Christ that provided for our salvation.

“In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of His grace.”(Ephesians 1:7)

“Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light: Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins.” (Colossians 1:12-14)

Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot.” (1 Peter 1:18,19)

Jesus did not have to die physically and spiritually. He died once for all. Consider these Scriptures:

“Wherefore he is also able to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them. For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens; Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people’s: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.” (Hebrews 7:25-27)

“Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us. For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh: How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot  to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God.” (Hebrews 9:12-14)

“Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others; For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself. And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.” (Hebrews 9:28)

“Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law; Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before, This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin. Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus, By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh; And having an high priest over the house of God; Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water. Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;)” (Hebrews 10:8-23)

 

So much more could be said, but since my time is presently rather limited, and since Jim Floyd  did such an excellent job in exposing this JDS teaching by reasoning with many Scriptures in his articles and book, and as Pastor Tyler did, as well, in the same book and in his sermons, there is no need for me to say any more than what I have already shared with you in this post.

I urge you to please take time to read the very thorough teachings by Jim Floyd that expose this heretical ‘Jesus died spiritually‘ teaching so that you are aware of how it perverts the Biblical gospel. I have linked to both of his excellent articles below.

Here also is the book that Jim Floyd just recently finished writing on this topic along with his pastor, Tyler Leigeb:

You can learn more about this book and purchase it, if you’d like, at the link below:

The Perfect Sacrifice

This book goes into great detail concerning the heretical JDS teaching, focusing on many Scriptures, as Jim Floyd does in his excellent and very in depth articles:

Beware of the “Jesus Died Spiritually” Heresy

Jesus Did Not Die Spiritually

 

I also highly encourage you to listen to the sermon series that Pastor Tyler Leigeb preached on this subject (JDS) at the link further below. He exposes this false teaching with many Scriptures and reasons with Scripture the damaging effects that this teaching has upon the Biblical gospel. If you choose to listen, I pray that you will find (as I did) your faith being renewed and strengthened as you become encouraged by hearing the many Scriptures that he shares and that you will also come to appreciate even more all that Jesus Christ accomplished for us through His sinless life, His willingness to submit to the will of God, His Father, and go through such brutal torture as crucifixion in order to take upon Himself the full wrath of God intended for us because of our sins, and to shed His blood and die in our place, thus fully satisfying God’s wrath and just demands as full payment for all sin –no matter how heinous those sins may be. When the veil/heavy curtain that hung in the temple was torn in two from top to bottom (Matthew 27:51, Mark 15:38), it clearly showed that God, the Father, accepted the death of Jesus Christ, His Son, as fully providing the way for sinful man to come into His presence and to be reconciled to Himself –a completely Holy God. (Ephesians 3:12, Hebrews 4:15,16, Hebrews 10:19-23)

When Jesus Christ gloriously arose bodily from the dead, it further showed that His physical death was enough to satisfy God’s just demands and wrath that He had towards us because of our sin, proving that His death paid the debt for all sin in full, and that we can know that we have — present tense — eternal life.

“He was delivered over to death for our sins and was raised to life for our justification.” (Romans 4:25)

“If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.” (1 John 5:9-13)

 

If you are someone who has yet to hear the truly good news of the Biblical gospel and to believe it and place your trust in *Jesus Christ alone for your salvation instead of trusting in your good works or in your church to save you, the many Scriptures shared in this sermon series will definitely reveal who Jesus Christ is to you. This series will also show you the depth of the love that God has for each and every one of us, and the extent that God went through to provide the one and only way for you to receive His love and forgiveness. That one and only way is by placing your trust in the finished work of Jesus Christ; the sinless life that He lived so that He would become the Lamb of God — the perfect sacrifice — His horrific death on the cross in our place as He took upon Himself the full wrath of God intended for us because of our sin and guilt, His burial, and His glorious bodily resurrection from the dead for your salvation. *(John 14:6, Acts 12:4, 1 Timothy 2:5, Romans 4:1-8, Ephesians 2:8-10, Titus 3:3-7)

The sermons in this series that expose this JDS teaching can be found at the Sermon Audio link below. The titles of these sermons are as follows:

PART 1: THE CUP

PART 2: FORSAKEN

PART 3: WHAT SATISFIED THE FATHER

Sermon Audio

NOTE:

Although I am sharing Jim Floyd’s articles and information about his book that he wrote along with Tyler Leigeb, and sharing Tyler Leigeb’s sermons with you, as well, it should not be considered by you to be an endorsement of Jim Floyd, Tyler Leigeb, and Billings Bible Church. Sadly, when I have endorsed pastors, teachers, and ministries to you in the past, I have regretted doing so because of the errors that I have discovered in some of their teachings as time went by.  This is why I no longer endorse anyone on my Living4HisGlory blog anymore. I do, however, highly recommend these resources to you because they line up with Scripture and show this JDS teaching to be completely unbiblical!

I urge each one of you to please be Bereans and constantly test every teaching that you hear and read by every pastor and teacher that you receive your teachings from, making sure that what is said is in context, as well, in order to make sure that what they say lines up with the truth of God’s Word (Acts 17:11). Make sure that you pray for discernment, as well! (Side note: Also pray for discernment whenever you are considering attending a church and make sure to read their statement of faith to find out where they stand on Theological issues to make sure what they believe lines up with Scripture).

RELATED SCRIPTURES

“Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed

For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth. He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.

And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.

Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.”(Isaiah 53:1-12)

“Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God.” (Romans 3:25)

“Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.” (Romans 5:9)

“Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.” (Hebrews 9:12)

“In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.” (Hebrews 9:22)

“But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.” (2 Peter 2:1)

“Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God. For many false prophets have gone out into the world.” (1 John 4:1)

“Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils.” (1 Timothy 4:1)

“Would to God ye could bear with me a little in my folly: and indeed bear with me. For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.” (2 Corinthians 11:1-4)

I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.” (Galatians 1:6-10)

“Now I know that none of you among whom I have gone about preaching the kingdom will ever see me again. Therefore, I declare to you today that I am innocent of the blood of any of you. For I have not hesitated to proclaim to you the whole will of God. Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood. I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard! Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears.” (Acts 20:25-31)

Thank you very much for stopping by today.

God Bless You

~Mary Dalke/Living4HisGlory

 

NOTE:

I am so very thankful to my dear friend, Lori, for always earnestly contending for the faith and for telling me about Jim Floyd and the book, THE PERFECT SACRIFICE, that he wrote along with Pastor Tyler Leigeb.

I am also deeply thankful to Jim Floyd not only for the excellent articles that he wrote on this JDS subject, but also for his book, THE PERFECT SACRIFICE, that he wrote along with Tyler Leigeb. This is an extremely important book in defense of the gospel and Jesus Christ’s ‘perfect sacrifice.’ I also truly appreciate Tyler Leigeb for the excellent in depth Biblical sermon series that he preached exposing this JDS false teaching. Their teachings were a true blessing to me at the time I needed them the most, and they will continue to be as we see this unbiblical teaching being accepted by many because they fail to test things in light of Scripture. These teachings will help equip us to defend the Biblical gospel and to help us open the eyes of those who have been led astray by this unbiblical JDS teaching.

IMPORTANT UPDATE:

I need to take some time off for the next three weeks for personal reasons and in order to prepare to have my taxes done. Lord willing, in the latter part of April, I will be going back to writing the series in which I began comparing the Catechism Of The Catholic Church to Scriptures in a Catholic New Testament Bible in order to reach precious Catholics with the truly good news of the Biblical gospel. When that series is completed I will then finish the series concerning the Alleged Apparitions Of The Virgin Mary and move on to some other important topics. Thank you for your patience.♥

Photo ‘Clouds Rays of Glory’ by Mary K Dalke – Reflections Of His Glory Photography

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Capture Beth Moore Living Proof Simulcast Sept. 12, 2015SOURCE

(Updated 9/8/15) Last year I discovered after the fact, that my former church for over 14 1/2 years, Harvest Bible Chapel Rolling Meadows, hosted a ‘Beth Moore simulcast’ at their Lake Zurich location:Capture Beth Moore Simulcast Lake Zurich Harvest Sept 20 2014This didn’t surprise me, since Beth Moore’s Bible studies were always  highly promoted while I attended Harvest (June 1997-January 2012), and I know for a fact that they still are. But since the simulcast had already taken place, I decided not to write about it.

However, two weeks ago I began to wonder if there was going to be a Beth Moore simulcast this year, and if so, I also wondered if HBC would once  again be sponsoring it. Thanks to Glenn Chatfield who writes at THE WATCHMAN’S BAGPIPES, I discovered while reading his post, ‘RANDOM ABERRATIONS, APOSTASIES, AND HERESIES’,  that indeed there is going to be “another simulcast for churches across the nation.” After searching to see if HBC would once again be one of the churches that would be sponsoring this event, this is what I found:

Capture Harvest Bible Chapel sponsoring a Beth Moore Simulcast Sept. 2015SOURCE

 Capture Beth Moore Simulcast - Information 2015SOURCE

Capture Audacious book trailerThe video I originally saw on YouTube was removed by the owner. Search for ‘Audacious Book Trailer’ and you’ll be able to play this video.

Will your church be bringing Beth Moore to your community on September 12, 2015? If so, please take time to listen and to read the very important information that I have added to this post for you below. Some of the following videos are excerpts from ‘James Robison’s Awaken Now Conference’ that took place in January of 2014.

Yes, Beth Moore is a very gifted speaker, but I simply ask you to please put aside the feelings that you have about her, and pray and ask God to give you discernment before watching the videos below, as well as before you read the articles that I added for you under Further Reading. If you plan on signing up for this simulcast, please make certain that you pray for discernment, and be a Berean (Acts 17:11) and test all that she says against God’s Word.

Beth Moore: “We so desperately need, so desperately need a fresh awakening…”

Beth Moore: “Be prepared for scoffers.”

In the following video starting at the 2:38-3:39 minute mark, you will hear Beth Moore talk about the scoffers who will come and speak out against the awakening and downpours; the outpouring that she believes God is telling her is coming:

“What God began to show me, is that it would not just come from the…mean spirited. The scoffers…I believe that God put on my heart…please test the spirit, pray and see if this…is confirmed to you in prayer and in the study of the Word.. I believe that He placed it on my heart that the scoffers will have an alternative answer for everything; an alternative for every single thing we see…there will be an alternative. They will not see it as the hand of God; an alternate answer. Unity will be called defection. Brokenness will be called instability. Grace will be called compromise. And the genuinely prophetic will be called false teaching. You see if this does not happen.”

 

In other words, Beth Moore is claiming that she is receiving extra Biblical revelation from God, and those of us who stand for Biblical truth and test things in light of Scripture will be the ones looked at as “the scoffers” if something does come and we see the need to warn other Christians that this “outpouring” is not of God because it does not line up with God’s Word. Those who choose to listen to her message and do not test her words against Scripture are having their minds manipulated/prepared to see those of us who oppose this so-called outpouring from God as the ones who are in the wrong.

Today, more than ever before, we must be certain that we are followers of Jesus Christ, and not a follower of any man (or woman) and their ministry. We must know the voice of our Shepherd and follow Him and Him alone, because spiritual deception will become so intense that only those of us who are truly following Him and reading His Word and are aware of the many spiritually deceptive traps waiting to lure us into its grips, will be protected from being deceived. 

Could the following videos be an indication of the kind of “unity” and “grace” that “God put on her heart?”

 

 

 

 

 

 

When time allows, please consider listening to the information presented in the following Playlist which compares the teachings of Catholicism  to Biblical Christianity. I hope and pray that you will then realize what many of us have already come to realize, which is that there can be no unity with Catholics because many of their teachings not only contradict God’s Word, but also the Sacrifice of the Mass denies the sufficiency of Jesus’ once for all propitiatory sacrifice.

I was a former Catholic who attended twelve years of Catholic school, went through Catechism classes, made my First Holy Communion, was Confirmed, and went to Mass thousands of times.  As I began to read the Catholic Bible and compare the teachings of the Catechism of the Catholic Church to the Catholic Bible, I came to an understanding of the sufficiency of Jesus’ death as completely satisfying the wrath of God that He had towards me because of my sins. The joy that filled my heart after God helped me to see what Jesus accomplished as He suffered and died in my place, was buried, and arose again, made me shudder in horror as God opened my ears to hear Jesus being called a ‘victim’ during the Sacrifice of the Mass. Fear and bondage kept me there for another year, but the truth of God’s Word set me free, and His peace released me from the fear that held me in its grip for the many years that I was a Catholic. It is my prayer that many Catholics will come to know the truth, and that the truth of His Word will set them free and fill them with joy and peace, as well. (If you’d like to read the extremely long version of my testimony, just click on the ‘My Testimony‘ Category at the top of my blog).

 

 

Not only is the line between genuine and counterfeit Christianity being blurred, but also New Age/New Spirituality practices are being welcomed into the church and are being fully embraced by many Christians who are unaware of the fact that these “new ways to pray” are leading them down a path to spiritual deception. The only way that we as Christians can tell the difference is to read and study God’s Word so that we will know it so well that we will be able to discern truth from error as soon as we hear it.

Jesus warned about false teachers and of the spiritual deception that would take place in the last days, and His Word also says that it will come even from among those who say they are believers. (Acts 20:25-31) So why is it that many today fail or even refuse to test the messages of their favorite Bible teachers such as Beth Moore in light of  Scripture as we are shown to do in His Word? (Acts 17:11) (1 Thessalonians 5:21,22)

Besides knowing God’s Word very well, it’s also very important to be ‘aware of Satan’s devices ‘ (2 Corin. 11:2b) so that we will not be led down one of the many spiritually deceptive paths that are causing multitudes of  Christians to become deceived today. That’s why I am so thankful for ministries such as Lighthouse Trails Research, Herescope, Deception in the Church, and many others ministries that expose things such as Contemplative Prayer, Spiritual Formation, Lectio Divina, and the many other unbiblical, mystical practices that are being presented to Christians today as ways to connect with God on a more personal and intimate level.

The terms “awakening” and “awaken” as well as the call for ‘unity’ that Beth Moore and others who profess to be Christians are speaking about, are also echoing throughout the world of the occult. Below you will find some examples of how these terms are permeating our world today. The unity that they speak of is not in any way related to the “unity” that Jesus spoke of in John 17, but rather a unity in order to achieve higher levels of consciousness related to the New Age Movement, in which the ultimate goal is to ‘awaken’ you to your own divinity. (Lord willing, I will be writing about this in great detail in an upcoming post).

The following video plays on a person’s emotions and speaks about having a ‘spiritual awakening.’  Roger Ingram, who created this video says:

“One night I decide to dedicate myself completely to answering my biggest question: Does God really exist? Is there anything truly greater in this world?”

While it is true that many today have those questions,  sadly this video go on to briefly share about the experience that some people had in their ‘spiritual awakening.’  Obviously none of them were Biblical, and all of them focused on occultic practices such as ‘out of body experiences’ and experiences that brought about feelings of ‘pure love.’

 

In these videos, Andrew Strom shares how the Kundalini awakening that those involved in the New Age Movement speaks of, experience the same feelings of pure love when the serpent power that is said to lie at the base of the spine is awakened:

 

Christian writer and speaker, Warren B Smith, who was once deeply involved in the New Age Movement, gives an excellent teaching on more ways that the New Age Movement is now infiltrating the church by speaking about “oneness” and “unity,” as well as ‘The Shack,’ Contemplative Prayer, and much more, in these videos:

 

 

If you’d like to listen to Beth Moore’s full three part message, that she gave at James Robison’s ‘Awaken Now Conference,’ click HERE. Just to let you know, you now have to register before you’re able to play the videos.

Chris Rosebrough of Pirate Christian Radio gives a thought-provoking review of Beth Moore’s “eerie”  message that she gave at James Robison’s ‘Awaken Now Conference’ in the following video. Please listen when time allows:

 

 CONCERNING BETH MOORE’S INVOLVEMENT IN MYSTICISM

Below is a screen shot that I captured from a video that clearly shows you what the focus of this conference was by the bold statement that was placed on banners that were hung across the stage. This video has now been removed from YouTube. (UPDATE 9/8/15: See video under Related Videos for another one I recently found). The following video will address this and the fact that during the Passion Conference 2012 the audience was told to “Pause and be still and allow Jesus to speak to you,” and the dangers of seeking to have God ‘speak to us’ when He speaks to us through His written Word. God has already spoken to us through His one and only Son, Jesus Christ   –the Word made flesh. (Read Hebrews 1:1-3 and John 1:1-5)

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As you can see from the quick capture below, the researchers at Lighthouse Trails have been strongly warning about Beth Moore’s involvement in and promotion of mysticism:

Capture Beth Moore - Be Still DVD - Mystical Contemplative Prayer - Lighthouse Trails Research(SOURCE)<– Click here to continue reading much more of this article. When time allows, I hope that you will consider reading many more articles that Lighthouse Trails has on Beth Moore, Contemplative Prayer, Mysticism, and much more, so that you can be well informed and come to realize the urgent need to constantly test all the teachings of everyone who claims to be teaching God’s Word).

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ANALYZING SOME OF BETH MOORE’S MESSAGES

 

 

IN CLOSING

If your church is sponsoring Beth Moore’s simulcast, or presenting Beth Moore ‘Bible studies’ for the women at your church, and you share the   serious concerns that many of us have about her teachings, consider   sharing your valid concerns with the leadership at your church. Be prepared though. I have heard of many women sharing how their valid concerns were ignored when they brought information to back up what they were saying. No matter how they may react to what you say, just remain faithful to ‘earnestly contend for the faith.’

If you have come to the point of placing your trust in Jesus Christ alone for your salvation and live to simply honor Him in all that you do and say and stand for Biblical truth, you will one day hear Him say to you, “Well done, thou good and faithful servant.” If we keep that in mind, it makes the rejection and loneliness that we sometimes feel from other Christians who refuse to listen to our warnings less painful.

If you have not yet come to the point of placing your trust in Jesus Christ alone for your salvation, I pray that you will take the time to seek God in His Word and ask Him to reveal the truth to you. Your eternity is at stake. There is no second chance after death. There is a heaven and a hell, and Jesus paid your debt to sin in full. God’s Word says that “now is the day of salvation.” (2 Corinthians 6:2) Tomorrow is promised to no one.

Do not place your trust in the teachings of men (or women) or of a certain church or religious system. Look to Jesus Christ alone for your salvation, and read His Word alone for the truth that will set you free. Test the teachings of all whom you choose to listen to against God’s Word, because spiritual deception will continue to intensify as the return of Jesus Christ continues to draw closer and closer. Are you ready?

 

RELATED VIDEOS:

(Added 9/8/15) In this video you will not only see Beth Moore at Passion 2012, the banner that says “Jesus speak to me,” and hear a portion of what many to believe was Lectio Divina, but you will also see more evidence that demonstrate why many Christians have valid concerns about Beth Moore:

 

Test Joyce Meyer’s teachings against Scripture, and you will find that she is clearly a false teacher:

 

I added this video to demonstrate to you not only how many others in ministry are speaking about an awakening, but also to ask you to discern if the opening of the Awakening Revival at Celebration Church looks like the beginning of true revival to you:

CATHOLICISM

 

 

 

RELATED SCRIPTURES

“Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.” (Acts 17:11)

“For I have not hesitated to proclaim to you the whole will of God. Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which He bought with His own blood. I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard! Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears.” (Acts 20:27-31)

“But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction.” (2 Peter 2:1)

“For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ.  And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light,  It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness.  Their end will be what their actions deserve.”        (2 Corinthians 11:13-15)

“Watch out for false prophets.  They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.  By their fruit you will recognize them.  Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?  Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.  A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit.  Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.  Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.  “Not everyone who says to Me,  ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven.  Many will say to Me on that day,  ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’  Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you.  Away from Me you evildoers!’” (Matthew 7:15-23)

“In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days He has spoken to us by His Son whom He appointed heir of all things, and through whom He made the universe.  The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of His being, sustaining all things by His powerful Word.  After He had  provided purification for sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven.  SO He became as much superior to the angels as the name He has inherited is superior to theirs.  For to which of the angels did God ever say,  “You are My Son; today I have become Your Father.”  (Hebrews 1:1-5) 

“But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent’s cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ.  For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough.” (2 Corinthians 11:3,4)

“Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ, who gave Himself for our sins to rescue us from the present evil age, according to the will of our God and Father, to whom be glory for ever and ever.  Amen.  I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel– which is really no gospel at all.  Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ.  But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned.  As we have already said, so now I say again:  If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!” (Galatians 1:3-9)

“Finally, be strong in the Lord and in His mighty power.  Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes.  For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.” (Ephesians 6:10-12)

“Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord,” (Acts 3:19)

“Godly sorrow brings repentance that leads to salvation and leaves no regret, but worldly sorrow brings death.” (2 Corinthians 7:10)

“Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Come near to God and He will come near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. Grieve, mourn, and wail. Change your laughter to mourning, and your joy to gloom. Humble yourselves before the Lord and He will lift you up.” (James 4:7-10)

“Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;”        (1 Timothy 4:1)

“All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His kingdom, I give you this charge: Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage — with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when  men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.” (2 Timothy 3:16,17-4:1-4)

“But evil men and imposters will proceed from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived.” (2 Timothy 3:13)

Thank you for stopping by and taking time out of your busy day to read some of my posts and poems.

God Bless You

~Mary Dalke/Living4HisGlory

 

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FURTHER READING FOR YOU:

SHARON LAREAU – EVALUATING BETH MOORE’S UPCOMING LIVE SIMULCAST – CHAPTER 3 MINISTRIES

PASTOR KEN SILVA- APPRISING THE BOOK OF BETH MOORE THUS SAITH THE LORD MY BRIDE IS PARALYZED BY UNBELIEF

BETH MOORE REVISITED – GLENN CHATFIELD – THE WATCHMAN’S BAGPIPES

FROM THE LATE PASTOR KEN SILVA – WHY IS BETH MOORE’S VISION CONCERNING THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH DEMONIC

LIGHTHOUSE TRAILS RESEARCH – WARREN B SMITH – HOW THE “QUANTUM CHRIST” (GOD IS IN EVERYTHING) IS TRANSFORMING THE WORLD…AND ENTERING THE CHURCH

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Lord willing, another new post coming soon.

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“But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you.” (2 Peter 2:1)

**UPDATED AND COMPLETED Wednesday 2:53 p.m. 5/20/15** I may add more at a later time, but because I have many other things that I’d like to  share with you, I am calling this ‘complete’ for now so that I can move on to other things that I’m working on.

God bless you all. Have a blessed day as you keep your focus on Jesus and not on the problems and discouragements of life.

Welcome to the first post in a new Category of posts that I have entitled, ‘False Teacher Friday – Learning The Importance of Being a Berean.’ Lord willing, once every month or so, I will be presenting you with information that you need to be aware of concerning certain popular Christian teachers or pastors, and information concerning some teachers or pastors that are not so well known. Their teachings will be misleading at the least, and heretical at the worst. If embraced, some of these teachings will lead you to a wrong understanding of Scripture, and others will lead you away from Biblical truth and the true Jesus Christ and into the world of mysticism and the occult.

Some of the teachers that I will be writing about will not be completely false, which is why their false teachings often go unnoticed, and this is what makes them so extremely dangerous. Their teachings can be over 97% Biblical truth, but if just that little bit of error is overlooked because we are not testing what they say in light of Scripture as God’s Word shows us we need to be doing (Acts 17:11), then slowly we will be led astray because we have placed our trust in man, instead of in God and the truth of His Word. One day we will all stand before God, and each of us will be responsible for what we choose to believe as truth. If we clearly refuse to test the teachings of those we listen to in light of Scripture and ignore the many warnings that God has given us about false teachers and how some of them would arise from among us and we end up being led astray, then we have no one to blame but ourselves.

Some of these pastors and teachers that I will be writing about may be at the very top of your ‘Favorite List,’ but if you truly love Jesus and the truth of His Word, then you will be willing to hear the truth as hard as it may be for you to hear it at first. I am expecting to lose some followers to this blog because of what I may be writing in the days and months ahead, but as a Christian who loves God and His Word and who desires to please God and not man, and as a Christian who desires to expose error and wake Christians up to the extreme importance of being followers of Jesus Christ and not being a follower of any man (or woman) and their ministry, I must speak out and not remain silent. All I ask is that you would please pray for discernment, read and listen to all the information that I will be sharing with you, and examine the Scriptures to see if what these pastors and teachers say is true or not. The decision you make next will be entirely up to you. But you can never say, “No one cared enough to warn me.”

Now for today’s False Teacher alert:

 

 LEARNING HOW SPIRITUAL DECEPTION IS ENTERING THE CHURCH

WARNING CONCERNING CURT THOMPSON

Curt Thompson is a psychiatrist and an author, and specializes in the field of Neuroscience. He is also a professing Christian.

Just in case the following video gets taken down one day, here’s a ‘quick capture’ I took of the video, and I typed out every word that he said in the following video for you, as well. (Emphasis in red is mine). I’d strongly advise you to pray for God to protect you spiritually before reading his words and listening to the video below.

While I watched the video, many concerns began to fill my mind. Pray for discernment and test what he says in light of Scripture, and see what concerns come to your mind before you read what I have shared with you below.

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 “So…I’m going to invite you to do something with me right now. It’s gonna take just maybe two minutes…two or three minutes, and then we’re going to wrap up. I want you to close your eyes. Don’t be afraid. You’ll all still look the same when you ww…when you open your eyes. Okay? [Note: My thoughts – Sounded like he was going to say, “When you (ww)wake up,” but caught himself and change his mind for fear of revealing he was actually using hypnosis on them.] “Why don’t you take a deep breath. Why don’t you take another one…one more.  And right now I going to invite you to allow your mind to imagine, being in a place that you find to be comfortable, and comforting, peaceful…it could be anywhere…wherever you want it to be. (Pause) And as you’re in that place, and for some of us it may take us…a little longer to get there that it will for others…I want you to…now allowfor the presence of God…to join youin any way…your imagination…allows…to happen. (Short pause). I want you to…take a look at your surroundings. I want you to view that, I want you to sense that, be attentive to that; see it, smell it, feel it…And in that place…where you are…I want you to allow yourself to hear God telling you this, “You, are My son, whom I love. And…in him I ‘m very well please. I am so pleased  you’re on the earth. You are My daughter…and I love you. (Short pause) I’m so pleased you’re on the earth.” I want you  just to sit with that… for just a moment more…and allow God to tell you…that. And  I want you to pay attention…to what this moment…feels like. (Pause) And now I’m going to invite you to just slowly…when  you’re ready…but not before…just to simply allow…your attention…to be drawn back to this room, leaving that place, but knowing that that place is not leaving you. (Short pause) And when you’re ready,  feel free to open your eyes. (Pause) We who are followers of Jesus, believe that  He is in this place. And in that moment, He has made Himself plain to us all. This is no joke. This is real. And your brains have been changed. Because God is serious about doing that.  And He meets us in these ways and places. I want to suggest that if you were to do that exercise…that exercise took us three minutes. You do that exercise every day for the next six weeks, your life will be different.”

What you have just witnessed is one of the spiritual disciplines that is being highly promoted these days throughout Christian circles in Spiritual Formation classes. Spiritual Formation focuses on different spiritual practices/exercises and disciplines that supposedly help Christians develop a deeper, more intimate relationship with God. In reality, practices like the one you just saw lead Christians away from coming to know God through His Word because it has them focusing on having ‘experiences’ with God instead.

The ‘exercise’ that Curt Thompson just demonstrated in the above video is referred to as ‘visualization’ or ‘guided imagery’ in New Age Mysticism. In “Christian” ‘spiritual formation,’ as Curt Thompson would probably classify this so-called “exercise,” a person, who is sometimes referred to as a ‘spiritual director,’ will attempt to guide your thoughts to lead you to imagine you are some place quiet and peaceful and then he or she will have you focus on your surroundings and sometimes have you imagine you are in a certain passage of Scripture. The person/”spiritual director” may, for example, try and tell you that you see Jesus standing there, and you hear the waves of the Jordan River, and you smell the fish cooking over the fire, and you feel the breeze coming off the Jordan River, etc.  It’s an attempt to have you disengage your critical thinking process, and instead have you engage all your senses and “allow” the ‘spiritual director’ to have control over your thoughts. Thus the reason for their continued use of the term “allow.” Those who practice hypnosis know that they can do nothing unless they have your permission; they want you to completely and willingly surrender control of your mind so that they can manipulate your thinking while they give you commands through their ‘guided imagery‘ and ‘visualization‘ techniques.

Curt Thompson has them engage their senses during this exercise by telling them to “see it, smell it, feel it…allow yourself to hear God telling you…” These practices that lead people to ‘engage their senses’ are also popular in the Emergent/Emerging Church movement. (See video on the ‘Emergent Church’ under “RELATED VIDEOS,’ as well as all the other videos I posted for you, to learn more).

TESTING WHAT CURT THOMPSON SAID IN LIGHT OF SCRIPTURE

With a hypnotic tone to his voice, Curt Thompson spoke very slowly to those in attendance at this ‘chapel service.’ He said things like, “I’m going to invite you to do something with me right now…” “allow your mind to imagine being in a place…” “allow for the presence of God to join you in any way your imagination allows to happen,” “allow yourself to hear God telling you,” “allow God to tell you that,” “Now I’m going to invite you to just slowly…allow your attention to be drawn back to this room…”

Let’s look at what God’s Word has to say about our imagination, since Curt Thompson is definitely encouraging people to  use their imagination in these so-called ‘exercises.’  The following verse  is one of the first verses that my very first Bible study teacher had us memorize:

For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds; Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;” (2 Corinthians 10:4,5)

MORE ON WHAT GOD’S WORD HAS TO SAY ABOUT OUR IMAGINATION

 “And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.” (Genesis 6:5)

“And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in His heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man’s sake; for the imagination of man’s heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every living thing, as I have done.” (Genesis 8:21)

“And the LORD said, “Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.” (Genesis 11:6)

“Behold, I know your thoughts, and the devises  which ye wrongfully imagine against me.” (Job 21:27)

“Why do the heather rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?” (Psalm 2:1)

“These six things doth hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto Him. A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart which deviseth wicked imaginations…” (Proverbs 6:16-18)

“But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear, but walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart, and went backward and not forward.” (Jeremiah 7:24)

“For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.” (Romans 1:20-23)

As you can see, God does not have anything good to say about our imaginations, which is why we are to take our thoughts captive to the obedience of Christ, and we are also told in Philippians 4 to:

“Rejoice in the Lord always. I will say it again: Rejoice! Let your gentleness be evident to all. The Lord is near. Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. And the peace of God which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.” (NIV 1973,1978,1984)

Nowhere in Scripture did Jesus have His disciples close their eyes and imagine they were in a quiet place. When Jesus prayed, He spoke to His Father. Yes, oftentimes He withdrew from the crowds to be alone with His Father to pray, but Scripture shows us that He always spoke words and did not silently sit and visualize that He was somewhere else imagining being with His Father, nor did He ever instruct His disciples to do such things!

This is frightening! It doesn’t matter what ‘Christian’ terminology may be used during a session like this, the bottom like is there is no difference between these types of exercises and New Age ‘visualization’ and ‘guided imagery’ practices, and a Christian should completely avoid taking part in anything like this! If you ever hear your pastor or teacher tell you to ‘close your eyes,’ or to ‘take deep breaths,’ or ‘focus on your breath,’ or tells you to ‘imagine being in a quiet, peaceful place,’ or somewhere other than where you actually are, etc., a red flag should immediately pop up as a warning sign to you! These are basic steps meant to guide you into altered states of consciousness where your mind will be opened to suggestions by the ‘spiritual director,’ pastor, teacher, etc.

We must never give anyone our permission to have control over our thoughts and our minds! Except for the Holy Spirit, of course!

Now I’d like to draw your attention to Curt Thompson’s comments during this ‘exercise’ when he said:

“Allow yourself to hear God telling you this, “You are My son whom I love. And in him I’m very well pleased.”

The first thing that came to my mind when I heard him say that, was the fact that these were almost the exact words that God the Father said to God the Son, Jesus Christ, in Mark 1:11 when He was baptized by John in the Jordan River:

“As Jesus was coming up out of the water, He saw heaven being torn open and the Spirit descending on Him like a dove. And a voice came from heaven: “You are My Son, whom I love; with You I am well pleased.” (Mark 1:10,11)

Curt Thompson continues on by saying:

“I am so pleased you’re on the earth. You are my daughter…and I love you. I’m so pleased you’re on the earth.”

Another concern that crossed my mind as I heard him say that is: What if some of the students in that particular chapel service were not Christians. By hearing Curt Thompson suggest that God is saying those things to them would easily allow students who have not repented of their sins and placed their trust in Jesus’ propitiatory sacrifice on the cross as full payment for their sins to rest in a false sense of peace and lull them into believing that they are accepted by God just as they are. Some of them possibly may have never even heard the gospel and therefore may not realize that they are sinners in need of a Savior. If a practice is done like this amongst Christians, not only is it unbiblical and occultic, but also it is presenting “another gospel” with no power whatsoever to save.

I’m sorry, but the Jesus that a person may encounter during sessions like this will not be the Jesus of the Bible! God would never want us to participate in practices that are clearly done in Hindu and Buddhist religions, and practices like this are not forms of Biblical meditation and prayer.

I am sure Curt Thompson is probably a very wonderful man.  In the beginning of the many videos that I watched of him in order to do research for this post, I heard him proudly share the fact that he has been married for many years. As of the time of a certain video that I watched that was published in July 2013 he said he had been married for over 26 1/2 years, which is a remarkable and rare thing these days, and it also says a lot about his commitment and his character! However, we as Christians must base whom we choose to listen to as our teachers to be much more than just men and women of good character. First and foremost their teachings must line up with God’s Word and not compromise or contradict it in any way!

One question we must ask concerning Curt Thompson is, “How do the teachings of  Neuroscience compare to Biblical Christianity?” That was my main concern as I watched the above video, and I continued my search for more information to find the answer to that question.

Besides leading those who were attending  the chapel service that day in the unbiblical ‘exercise‘ using their imaginations, these were the most troubling things that I heard him say:

“We who are followers of Jesus, believe that  He is in this place. And in that moment, He has made Himself plain to us all. This is no joke. This is real. And your brains have been changed. Because God is serious about doing that.  And He meets us in these ways and places. I want to suggest that if you were to do that exercise…that exercise took us three minutes. You do that exercise every day for the next six weeks, your life will be different.”

It’s quite obvious that he is not joking about what he said. However, the God of the Bible does notmeet us in these ways and places” because these practices are rooted in eastern religions. Therefore, it seems to me that he is presenting “another Jesus” and “another gospel.” (2 Corinthians 11:3,4, Galatians 1:6-9)  Is he? How do the teachings of Neuroscience compare to Biblical truth and to the gospel? In my search for information to answer those very questions, I first found the following videos:

‘CURT THOMPSON: NEUROPLASTICITY AND SPIRITUAL DISCIPLINES’

Please pray for discernment as you read and listen. This is most of what he had to say in the following video:

“The term Neuroplasticity really refers to the capacity of neurons to flexibly change.” 

“And as it turns out, Neurons are far more flexible than we ever thought they were. And by flexibility, by Neuroplasticity, or the neurons capacity to be flexible, plastic or malleable, we mean the following. First of all that neurons are able of regeneration.”

“All three of these things — regeneration, growth in length and diameter, and growth in density of connection — means that our mind has the capacity for doing things even after damage that we didn’t think it could do before. What does that have to do with Spiritual Transformation? We like to say that, in the brain, nothing changes without neurons changing. If I learn a new thing, if I put a new practice into a disciplined place, all of those things require the redirection of neurons to do things that they weren’t doing before. Neuroplasticity is something that we want to enhance in order to make that flexibility more accessible. Things like spiritual disciplines; fasting, confession, prayer, solitude, and so forth, do a couple of things. One, they open our awareness to things that our mind is sensing, feeling, evoking, that we typically are not paying attention to. If I am now paying attention to these new things, I’m asking my brain’s neurons to do things they weren’t doing before. And as such, I open up windows into connecting functions of my mind; experiences of my mind that were not being connected before. And so, the flexibility of Neuroplasticity, is, in some respects, almost interchangeable with Spiritual Formation. You can’t really talk about Spiritual Formation without invoking the activity of Neuroplasticity.”

 Even though Curt Thompson shared a lot of interesting things about the brain and neurons in the above video, it seemed to me by what he said that he was forgetting all about the miraculous transforming power of the Holy Spirit to change a person’s life, and making it all about man’s ability to achieve transformation by incorporating ‘spiritual disciplines‘ to bring change to our brain’s neurons and thus bring change to our habits and lives. If so, this indeed is “another gospel” that has no power to save.

Notice also his focus on ‘spiritual disciplines‘ and how he says they “open our awareness to things that our mind is sensing, feeling, evoking…” Instead of him saying, ‘If a Christian reads God’s Word it will bring about spiritual transformation,’ he focuses on leading Christians into having ‘experiences’ as you saw demonstrated in the very first video. 

In order to dig deeper into what else he teaches, I continued to search for more videos, and found this one:

‘CURT THOMPSON: A PATHWAY TO TRANSFORMATION’

Please continue to pray for discernment before you read and listen. Here again is most of what he said in the following video:

“We are much more likely to embody behavioral change, when what we are doing with our bodies…whether that means…what I’m saying, what I’m thinking, what I’m feeling, what I’m acting…if those things make sense to me.”

“And so, for example, if someone says to me, “The more you pay attention to certain things, the more you establish that those things will become more permanent not just in your thinking, but literally in your brain,” and then I’m invited to pay attention to other things that can change the nature of how my brain is wired, I’m much more likely to do that, especially if you give me concrete practices such as meditation practices, for example,  that can change the way my brain is wired. Those, and many other elements of Neuroscience I think become grist for the mill where by which I can begin to make sense out of why I do what I do.”

“The reason we even talk about wanting transformation is because at some point in our life we can look around and say,   “My life is doing things that I wish it weren’t doing, and I want that to be different in very concrete practical ways. How can I make that happen.” We hear preached, we hear taught all the time things  like, “Be renewed, be transformed by the renewing of your mind.” I have no idea what that means in real life.

As I listened to all that he said in this video many Scriptures came to mind, as well as the thought that what he described sounded more like ‘behavior modification.

 

The reason someone might say, “my life is doing things that I wish it weren’t doing,” as Curt Thompson suggests that some may say, is not because of  “the nature of how our brains are wired,” as he suggests, but because of the sinful nature within all of us that can only be changed through the transforming power of the Holy Spirit by first coming to faith and trust in Jesus Christ, and through the renewing of our minds (something that he claims he has a hard time understanding what that means) through the reading of God’s Word. Let’s look at some Scriptures to find the truth in God’s Word concerning all of this, and pray that Curt Thompson will one day come to understand the truth that is presented in God’s Word:

“Therefore, if anyone is in Christ he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come.” (2 Corinthians 5:17)

“Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good. Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful. For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.”

“For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I. If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good. Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.” 

“Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.”

“O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin. There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.”

“For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.”

“Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.”

“Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.” (Romans 7:12-25 – 8:1-17 )

 

‘CURT THOMPSON: SPIRITUALITY, NEUROPLASTICITY, AND PERSONAL GROWTH (FULL INTERVIEW)’

 

‘CURT THOMPSON: PREACHING THE GOSPEL

IN THE LANGUAGE OF NEUROSCIENCE’

In the following video, Curt Thompson mentions the names of a few people that I had never heard of before. After searching and finding information on them, the evidence became even more clear that he was indeed promoting mindfulness meditation, contemplative prayer, etc.

At the 7:43 minute mark in the above video, he asks,

“How many of you know of Brene’ Brown’s work?”

Upon searching for information on Brene’ Brown I found this. Need I say more? :/

Continuing on with more of what I discovered while listening to Curt Thompson’s video: At the 8:19 minute mark he said the following:

“You may not know this, but, starting tomorrow there is a major conference at UCLA being run by my good friend, and a number of others called, ‘How People Change.’ Dan Siegel and his friends are running this program…” ‘How People Change – Relationships and Neuroplasticity in Psychotherapy.’

Here’s some of the information that I found on Curt Thompson’s “good friend,” Dan Siegel. Note the very last thing I included in the ‘quick capture’ below, which says:

July 31 – August 1  Rhinebeck NY  Omega: Mindfulness & Education Conference: Bringing Mindfulness Practice to Children Grades K – 12

Capture Curt Thompson mentioned Dan Siegel who promotes mindfulness

 

In the following video, Buddhism is clearly spoken about. Dan Siegel first talks with Jack Cornfield who then leads the people in a ‘mindfulness meditation‘ exercise. Again, please pray for discernment and protection before you watch. Note the Buddha statue in the background:

 

I also found this very disturbing video in which, as you can see from the title, Dan Siegel presents a session of ‘Guided Meditation.’ I truly do not want to post this, and I could only bring myself to watch less than  thirty seconds of this video, but sometimes we need to make Christians aware of just how these New Age/New Spirituality occult practices are entering the church. Also, since Curt Thompson makes it clear that Dan Siegel is his “good friend,” then I see this as related and very important information to add to this post to establish my valid concerns about him. I strongly urge you to pray for God’s protection and discernment if you choose to watch this video.

Realizing that Curt Thompson is a frequent speaker at Biola University by watching many of his videos, I decided to check out Biola’s website:

Capture Biola University - Curt Thompson - Psychiatrist and Author - About

Not only did I want to see what other information I could find on Biola’s website concerning Curt Thompson, but also I wanted to see who else they invited to speak there, and what subjects they chose to speak about.

In the ‘quick capture‘ I posted for you below, the video entitled How Mindfulness Can Change Your Brain‘ captured my attention. Once again, I saw it as a confirmation of Curt Thompson’s connection with the unbiblical practice of ‘mindfulness meditation.’ Sadly, these new age/new spirituality practices are taught at many ‘Christian’ colleges these days, and we as parents must make our children aware of these spiritually deceptive practices and make them realize the importance of testing things in light of Scripture so they will not be deceived and led astray from Biblical truth.

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Not recognizing who the man was that is pictured in the ‘Mindfulness’ video, I discovered that his name is Jeffrey Schwartz:

Even though Biola U invites some well respected Christians to speak there such as Alistair Begg, as you can see from the ‘quick capture’ below, they also have  speakers  such as Richard Rohr and Ruth Haley Barton (Lord willing, I will be sharing information on them with you at a later time) that would cause many discerning Christians to become very concerned because of their strong promotion of the unbiblical, mystical practice of Contemplative Prayer, among other things.

Capture Biola University - Richard Rohr and Ruth Haley Barton

In my search for more information, I also came across this excellent article in PDF form which was written by Callie W T Jobert —  Mindfulness and the Brain – A Christian Critique of Some Aspects of Neuroscience

 Reading that information again confirmed my hunch that Curt Thompson teaches New Age ‘mindfulness meditation.’ I only recently learned about this form of meditation mainly from the teachings of two Christians in particular who were once deeply entrenched in the New Age Movement  –Warren B Smith, and Marcia Montenegro.

REINVENTING JESUS CHRIST: MEDITATION AND CONTEMPLATIVE PRAYER – WARREN B SMITH

MINDFULNESS: NO-MIND OVER MATTER – MARCIA MONTENEGRO – CHRISTIAN ANSWERS FOR THE NEW AGE

MORE ON MINDFULNESS: NEVER MIND THE MIND – MARCIA MONTENEGRO – CHRISTIAN ANSWERS FOR THE NEW AGE

 Just the other day as I was going through some things that I had previously written but decided for one reason or another not to post on my blog, I came across something that was  absolutely perfect for this post! Back in 2012 I had written  something about Steven Furtick and I had added a Playlist to this post that I put together on my YouTube channel that I entitled, “Christian Brothers and Sisters! Are You Being Deceived?‘  In this ‘Playlist’ I not only had many videos concerning Steven Furtick, but I also had many videos about ‘Contemplative Prayer,’ and many others things because I always try to alert Christians to the importance of testing things in light of Scripture. To my amazement I discovered that the very first video that I had added to this Playlist is the one you see below! In this video, beginning at the :27 second mark, you will hear Curt Thompson clearly mention ‘meditation‘ and ‘Centering Prayer.’ Again, please pray for discernment, and test what he says in light of Scripture. In part, he said the following:

“…when people meditate in Centering Prayer exercises, for instance, that the density of neurons that are lighting up in the prefrontal cortex change over time and become more dense. So we know that when people become new in that sense, this is really something happening in the brain. It’s not just a metaphor, it’s not just in the abstract. When we who follow Jesus say things like, “When we are in Christ we are a new creations,” what I’m suggesting is that even though St. Paul wasn’t a Neuroscientist, that this is exactly what he’s talking about. That this is real change, that is concrete, that is measurable, and it tells us that God’s not really kidding when He’s creating newness within us. “And this kind of concrete change is the kind of change that we’re now looking for that gives us some hope in some sense that, yes, there is real transformation that’s taking place, in my mind and that when I have the mind of Christ, when my mind is being transformed, that’s no longer just…language. That’s real things that are happening in real bodies.” (Emphasis in red is mine).

‘ANATOMY OF THE SOUL: WHAT DOES IT MEAN’


If you’d like to watch the whole Playlist of 63 videos (at last count), here it is:

 

Here’s some more solid evidence that Curt Thompson is not only promoting New Age/New Spirituality meditation, but also he is completely distorting God’s Word. This is an excerpt from his book, ‘ANATOMY OF THE SOUL.’

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Now let’s look at Scripture and discover what God has to say about meditation and prayer:

Psalms 1:1-6 – Blessed [is] the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.   (Read More…)

“But his delight [is] in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.” (Psalm 1:2)

“Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.” (Psalm 19:14)

“My mouth shall speak of wisdom; and the meditation of my heart [shall be] of understanding.” (Psalm 49:3)

“When I remember thee upon my bed, [and] meditate on thee in the [night] watches.” (Psalm 63:6)

“My meditation of Him shall be sweet: I will be glad in the LORD.”        (Psalm 104:34)

Psalms 119:1-127 – ALEPH. Blessed [are] the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD.   (Read More…)

“Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee.        (Psalm 119:11)

“I will meditate in thy precepts, and have respect unto thy ways.”           (Psalm 119:15)

“My hands also will I lift up unto thy commandments, which I have loved; and I will meditate in thy statutes.” (Psalm 119:48)

“O how love I thy law! it [is] my meditation all the day.” (Psalm 119:97)

“Thou wilt keep [him] in perfect peace, [whose] mind [is] stayed [on Thee]: because he trusteth in Thee.” (Isaiah 26:3)

“Rejoice in the Lord always: and again I say, rejoice. Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand. Be careful (note: The NIV version uses anxious) for nothing; but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God. And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus. Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things. Those things which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you.” (Philippians 4:4-9)

“But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.” (Matthew 6:7)

“And it came to pass, that, as He was praying in a certain place, when He ceased, one of His disciples said unto Him, “Lord, teach us to pray, as John also taught his disciples. And He said unto them, “When ye pray, say,” (Luke 11:1,2a)

SOURCE (King James Bible Online)

Prayer and meditation for Christians is not going through a process of blanking our thoughts out of our minds by repeating a word over and over. Nor is it a process by which we close our eyes and imagine being in a peaceful place and allowing God to say things to us as Curt Thompson suggests that Christians do as demonstrated in the very first video that I posted for you. As you can see from these verses, Biblical meditation is Christians simply filling their minds with the truth of God’s Word and using our minds to dwell upon the truths presented in Scripture.

And prayer for a Christian is having the amazing privilege of coming before the very throne of God and being able to express not only our love and appreciation to Him, but also being able to express our concerns that weigh heavily upon our hearts to Him instead of worrying about the overwhelming things we face in life, and trusting that He will  work things out in His way and in His timing for our good and for His glory.

A FEW EXAMPLES OF PRAYER IN SCRIPTURE

1) ELISHA – “And Elisha prayed, “Open his eyes, LORD, so that he may see. Then the LORD opened the servant’s eyes, and he looked and saw the hills full of horses and chariots of fire all around Elisha.” (2 Kings 6:17)

2) HEZEKIAH – “And Hezekiah prayed to the LORD: “LORD, the God of Israel, enthroned between the cherubim, You alone are God over all the kingdoms of the earth…” (2 Kings 19:15)

3) DAVID –  Expressed his heart in words to God in many of the Psalms: “Save me, O God by Your name; vindicate me by your might. Hear my prayer, O God; listen to the words of my mouth.” (Psalm 54:1,2)

“Listen to my prayer, O God, do not ignore my plea; hear me and answer me. My thoughts trouble me and I am distraught…” (Psalm 55:1,2)

4) JONAH – In the belly of the fish: “From inside the fish Jonah prayed to the LORD his God. He said: “In my distress I called to the LORD, and He answered me. From the depths of the grave I called for help, and You listened to my cry.” (Jonah 2:1,2)

5) DANIEL – “I prayed to the LORD my God and confessed: “LORD, the great and awesome God, who keeps His covenant of love with those who love Him and keep His commandments…” (Daniel 9:4)

6) JESUS – on the Mount of Olives: “He withdrew about a stone’s throw beyond them, knelt down and prayed, “Father, if You are willing, take this cup from Me, yet not My will, but Yours be done.” (Luke 22:41,42) 

He prays for Himself: “After Jesus said this, He looked up toward heaven and prayed: “Father, the time has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son may glorify You. For You granted Him authority over all people that He might give eternal life to all those you have given Him. Now this is eternal life: that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent.” (John 17:1-3)

7)PAUL AND SILAS – “About midnight Paul and Silas were praying and singing hymns to God, and the other prisoners were listening to them…” (Acts 16:25)

IN CLOSING

Time does not permit me to go into all the concerns that I have about what Curt Thompson said in the videos I shared with you. Let me just once again stress to you that these forms of spiritual practices are leading many astray because they are preaching a false gospel that leads people to believe that man has the ability within himself to bring change to his behavior by means other than by repenting and coming to Jesus Christ as a sinner in need of a Savior, and being transformed by the power of the Holy Spirit and by having our minds renewed by reading the truth of God’s Word. We are all wretched sinners in need of a Savior, and there is no other hope for man outside of Jesus Christ.

To Curt Thompson’s credit I did hear him share with his audience in one of his video presentations that he is a sinner. However, as I have demonstrated to you by his own words and by all the information that I added to this post, his main focus in his presentations is on telling people that by practicing these exercises (which are unbiblical and rooted in the occult) the neurons in our brains will begin to change, and this will bring change to our thinking and our behavior. This is not the gospel! The only way we can come to Him is with godly sorrow in our hearts because of the sin in our lives, and we will find and receive His mercy and His amazing grace and be transformed by His Spirit. Then, and only then will we have the ability to obey because we will have His Holy Spirit within us. We now have the power to choose to walk by the Spirit and not our flesh and we obey out of love and appreciation for what Jesus did for us when He took all of God’s wrath upon Himself and died in our place, satisfying God’s wrath that He has towards us because of our sins. God then sees us covered with the righteousness of His Son, Jesus Christ, and our sins are as far as the east is from the west, and they are cast into the depths of the sea never to be remembered again. (Philippians 3:9, 2 Corinthians 5:21, Romans 5:18, Psalm 103:11,12, Isaiah 43:25, 1 John 1:9, Micah 7:18,19, Romans 4:7,8)

We can come to know Him in a very real way through reading His Word, not by seeking to have ‘experiences’ that will only lead us away from Him and into spiritual deception and bondage.

When we place our trust in Jesus Christ alone for our salvation and if we choose to live our lives to please God and not man, when our life on earth comes to an end I can say by the authority of the Word of God that we will then hear Him speak to us. Those of us who are true followers of Jesus Christ and live to honor Him long to hear these words:

“Well done, thou good and faithful servant.” (Matthew 25:21)

RELATED SCRIPTURES

“Therefore seeing we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we faint not; But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God. But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus’ sake.” (2 Corinthians 4:1-5)

“I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.” (Romans 1:16)

“Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it. Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.” (Matthew 7: 13-15)

“Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men. after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.” (Colossians 2:8)

“But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent’s cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ.  For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough.” (2 Corinthians 11:3,4)

“Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ, who gave Himself for our sins to rescue us from the present evil age, according to the will of our God and Father, to whom be glory for ever and ever.  Amen.  I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel– which is really no gospel at all.  Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ.  But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned.  As we have already said, so now I say again:  If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!” (Galatians 1:3-9)

“Finally, be strong in the Lord and in His mighty power.  Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes.  For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.” (Ephesians 6:10-12)

“Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has gone through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly to the faith we profess. For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are — yet was without sin. Let us then approach the throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.” (Hebrews 4:14-16)

“Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;”        (1 Timothy 4:1)

“All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His kingdom, I give you this charge: Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage — with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when  men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.” (2 Timothy 3:16,17-4:1-4)

“For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.” (2 Corinthians 11:13-15)

“Humble yourselves, therefore, under God’s mighty hand, that He may lift you up in due time. Cast all your anxiety on Him because He cares for you. Be self-controlled and alert. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.” (1 Peter 5:6-8)

“Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.” (1 John 4:1)

“O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoid profane [and] vain babblings, and oppositions of science, falsely so called: Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace [be] with thee. Amen.”      (1 Timothy 6:20,21)

“Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen Me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” (John 20:29)

“Without faith it is impossible to please God.” (Hebrews 11:6)

“But evil men and imposters will proceed from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived.” (2 Timothy 3:13)

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Just a short post to let you know what’s happening, and what is soon to come –Lord willing: I am still working on Part 3 of my testimony, ‘FROM FEAR AND UNCERTAINTY, TO PEACE AND ASSURANCE — HOW GOD REVEALED THE TRUTH TO ME WHILE I WAS READING A CATHOLIC NEW TESTAMENT BIBLE.’  It’s an overwhelming task that I have taken on to share with you the teachings of the Catholic church directly from the ‘Catechism of the Catholic Church,‘ as well as some of the teachings of ‘Vatican II’ and ‘The Council of Trent’ and comparing much of it to Scripture, and I want to make sure it is done thoroughly; since my desire is to share the truly “good news” of the gospel with Catholics, I don’t want to rush to finish it just to have it completed by a certain deadline, which I tentatively set for the end of August, which, as you know, is today.  Lord willing, with God’s help, I hope to have it finished by the end of September.

A few more reasons why I have not been able to complete Part 3:

1) I have been trying very hard to be successful in my new business venture as a Jamberry Nails Independent Consultant, which means I have been spending a lot of time trying different ways to introduce these beautifully designed, chemical-free, latex-free, long-wearing vinyl nail wraps to women through flea markets, Bridal Fairs, fundraisers, online Facebook parties and in-home parties , etc.  (Your prayers would be appreciated!  Please pray God will lead and direct me in the way He would desire me to go).

2) Three days a week I am now helping take care of my mom who is still unable to walk on her own even though she was in a rehabilitation center for four months recovering from an injury to her leg.  To spend time with my precious mom is a privilege, and God even gave  me another opportunity to share the gospel with her two weeks ago, so I see this as a ministry to her.  Your prayers for her salvation and God’s wisdom for me would be greatly and deeply appreciated at this time!

3) My mind is overwhelmed and my heart is rather burdened because of new information I recently came across a couple of weeks ago that further explains in frightening detail what is truly happening in many churches today — and why!  In order to free my mind from all of this so that I can concentrate and finish the final part of my testimony, the idea to write a poem, entitled, ‘VOICES,’ came to mind.  In my introduction and through my poem and some videos, as well, I intend to share this information with you in order to warn you, and to emphasize even more than I have already done in many previous posts, the importance of not only testing things in light of Scripture, but also to stress how we as Christians are to truly and only be  followers of Jesus Christ, and not any man or ministry; the only voice we should be listening to is the voice of our Shepherd!!  Lord willing, I hope to have the poem finished by the end of this week or next week.

God bless you!  Thank you for stopping by!  And thank you very much for taking some time out of your day to read my posts and poems!