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Capture Midday Connection airs its final program - Moody Radio(SOURCE)

UPDATED MONDAY 2/22/16 7:44 P.M. Added another video of Dr. Sue Edwards and more information. See further below dated 2/22/16 in red.

UPDATED SUNDAY 2/21/16 Added video of Dr. Sue Edwards, Barbara Neumann, and George M Hillman discussing Organic Mentoring, and added a few more comments.

UPDATED SATURDAY 2/20/16 Added more information. See further below dated 2/20/16 in red. Lord willing, when time allows I will be searching for the notes that I took as I listened to many Midday Connection programs, and will share them with you in this post which should then fully complete this post.

NOTE: 1/4/2016 This post is a work in progress. It is almost completely finished, but in order to make sure that I will not lose all the information that I have already added to this post, I am publishing it now, and will continue to update it when time allows until it is completely finished. I will then remove this note.  Thank you.

Christians, have you ever found yourself stunned by what you have heard on Christian radio while you’re driving? Have you found yourself in disbelief to the point of where you gasp in utter shock and have to remind yourself that you have to concentrate on your driving or you might hit the car in front of you? Well, that had been my experience many a time over the past at least five years or so while I had been listening to Moody Radio’s Midday Connection program which started at 12:00 noon central time in my area. I write in the past tense because at first I was led to believe (by the announcement that I found as I was searching for more information at the end of October which I quick captured and posted above for you) that Moody Radio was simply going to be airing prerecorded editions of Midday Connection programs until the start of the new year when they would then begin having their new Midday Connection programs. However, after I began writing this post way back on September 9, 2015 with the intention of warning you about what is being presented on Midday Connection, as I was searching for more information at the end of October to add to this post it was then that I discovered the show  was actually cancelled! I then realized that what they meant by “new program” was actually just that; an entirely different program. I then had to go back and reword some of what I had already written and change the title of this post, as well. All that just to explain to you one reason why it has taken me so long to finish writing the post concerning Mysticism that I had been telling you at first was coming soon.

Okay. On with my post.

As I searched the Internet to see if I could find out the reason why Moody cancelled their program, I came across the blog belonging to one of the former hosts of Midday ConnectionLori Neff. She wrote a very vivid and deeply emotional account of how she was told:

Capture Midday Connection - Lori Neff - Given the news that Midday Connection was ending(SOURCE)

My heart was filled with compassion for her because it reminded me of how I was treated after working so very hard for thirteen years at my previous job, and it brought back to my mind of how I felt two years ago when I was called into the office and told that I was fired. Unjustly fired, I might add. But that’s another story.

As I continued to read Lori Neff’s post I also identified with the shock that she felt, the disappointment, as well as the depression. But I had actually been praying that God would somehow get me out of my job mainly because of how the new manager was treating me. And although I shed some tears for a few moments after I left the building because I was escorted out as if I was a criminal, and because I loved my co-workers and was hurt that no one came to my defense, my heart then became filled with thanks to God for releasing me! Lori Neff, on the other hand, loved her job! As did Melinda Schmidt and Anita Lustria, I’m sure!

Before I continue by sharing some of my concerns with you in regards to what Moody Radio has presented and is continuing to present to their listeners, I’d first like to start out by saying that Moody Radio played a part in my spiritual journey before I was a Christian and when I was still married, yet feeling so unloved and alone. When my ‘husband’ would leave for work very early in the morning, I would search through all of the radio stations looking for something to comfort me, and one day I came across Moody Radio. One of the songs that I heard  for the first time was Unfailing Love, by Evie Torquist. The beauty of her voice, the melody, and above all, the gospel message (that I was unaware of at the time) which permeated this song, was what truly brought me to tears. Here’s a portion of the lyrics:

“Unfailing love flows from His heart and heals my soul. In spite of who I am He loves and makes me whole. I almost can’t believe it’s true, unfailing love. And yet I know…He gave His life to give to me, unfailing love.” 

I wanted to know God’s unfailing love! I needed His unfailing love to heal my soul! However, it would be a few more years and many more days of tears, heartache, and rejection until God revealed His love — as well as His truth — to me, and healed my soul and made me whole. (If you’d like, you can read about that by clicking on My Testimony at the top of my blog).

Mike Kellogg’s soothing voice, the Scriptures that I heard him share, as well as the songs that he played on his program Music Through The Night on Moody Radio was also a deep comfort to my broken heart and troubled mind throughout those years before I personally came to know Jesus Christ and the true gospel in 1980.

Now I’ll get back to the reason for this post by focusing on the program Midday Connection:

While Anita Lustrea, Melinda Schmidt, and Lorie Neff seem like they are all very sweet and warm radio hostesses who treated their callers with respect and gave them enough time to share what they wanted to say when they called in, I found myself becoming deeply concerned about all of those who listened to their programs because of many of the guests they had on over the past, at least six years, or so. Take September 9th, 2015 for example. Ruth Haley Barton, the former Associate Director of Spiritual Formation at Willow Creek Community Church, who is the founder of the Transforming Center, was their special guest:

Capture Moody Radio Midday Connection - Ruth Haley Barton - Sacred Rhythms

For those of you who are not aware of who Ruth Haley Barton is, you will find some of many articles on her posted by Lighthouse Trails, HERE.

Here is an excerpt from some of the information that you will find:

Capture Ruth Haley Barton - In her own words - Lighthouse Trails(SOURCE)

Here is another very good article with a lot of information on Ruth Haley Barton that was written by the late Pastor Ken Silva (who faithfully and earnestly contended for the faith), followed by a quick capture of a portion of his article:

WHO IS RUTH HALEY BARTON?

Capture Ruth Haley Barton - Quick capture of portion of article written by Ken Silva - Apprising Ministries(SOURCE)<–Click here to continue reading.

Then on September 29, 2015, Midday Connection had author, speaker, and spiritual director, Janet Davis, as their special guest. During this program creative ways to pray were  discussed which focused on prayer beads, breath prayers, wordless prayer, body prayer, praying in color, and other forms of prayer and practices that went beyond the examples of prayer that can be seen in Scripture, and into mystical and pagan practices that can be seen in the New Age/New Spirituality movement. Lorie Neff said that these creative ways to pray, such as wordless prayer, brought about a “deeper connection with God.Janet Davis agreed by saying that these creative ways to pray is  “something that can really revitalize our prayer life.” Because of the fact that what they presented to their listeners on this particular day was so far from Biblical Christianity, and because much of what they presented on many of their shows led their listeners to desire having mystical experiences with God and away from seeking God in His Word, I found my concern for their listeners begin to intensify!

During this program, Lorie Neff, the host of Midday Connection, also mentioned  Richard Foster’s book Prayer which she said she had read for her spiritual direction training. (More information on Richard Foster a little later in this post).

Capture Midday Connection - Creative Prayer - Janet Davis - September 29 2015(SOURCE)<– You can listen to the program here.

Here is a quick capture from one of her articles on Being Prayer, and using visual aids in prayer:

Capture Janet Davis - Being prayer - Visual aids in prayer - beads - praying in color - body prayer - labyrinth(SOURCE)

 

While doing research for this post I discovered that on June 3, 2013 Anita Lustrea wrote an article about Walking the Labyrinth on their Midday Blog:

Capture Midday Connection Blog - Anita Lustrea - Walking the Labyrinth - June 3 2013(SOURCE)

For those of you who are not aware of what a Labyrinth is, here is some information that will show you this is not a Christian practice by any means; it is pagan in origin:

ENTER THE LABYRINTH – LET US REASON MINISTRIES

VIDEO PLAYLIST OF MANY DIFFERENT LABYRINTHS, AND AN EXPLANATION OF WHAT CAN BE FOUND IN THE CENTER OF THEM IN THE VERY LAST VIDEO:

At first I was hoping that some of Moody’s discerning listeners called and complained about the many New Age/New Spirituality teachings that were being presented on Midday Connection and that was the reason it was going off the air.

However, as I was listening to Moody’s morning show with Karl and June, I realized that was definitely not the reason, because on the morning of October 26, 2015 they had Richard Foster as their guest, so I went to their Facebook page to quick capture this for you:

Capture Moody Radio - Karl and June featured Richard Foster October 26, 2015

 

That wasn’t the first time that Richard Foster was on Moody Radio. I remember him being on Midday Connection at least a few times over the past six or so years. Here is just one example:

Capture Midday Connection - Richard Foster - 6-17-2014(SOURCE)

One of the most alarming things that Richard Foster said in the 1978 version of his book Celebration of Discipline, a book which can be found on the Recommended Reading list put out by many churches to this day, is the following very disturbing description of what the reader is instructed to do which exactly describes the same occult practice of astral travel:

“In your imagination allow your spiritual body, shining with light, to rise out of your physical body. Look back so that you can see yourself lying in the grass and reassure your body that you will return momentarily … go deeper and deeper into outer space until there is nothing except the warm presence of the eternal Creator. Rest in His presence.” –Richard Foster in the 1978 edition of Celebration of Discipline, pages 26,27 (SOURCE) Lighthouse Trails

There was a time when you could listen to Moody Radio and hear  many Biblically solid teachings and messages. Today, however, as I hope that you can now see, things have drastically changed!

When I first bought a computer in 2008 I began searching for information on some of the guests that I heard on Midday Connection because of some of the troubling things that I heard them say, Lighthouse Trails Research was the first blog that I found that had an abundance of information concerning Moody, as well as Midday Connection. The information that I found confirmed all of my concerns and provided me with enough information to even cause my concerns to intensify! That’s why I decided to start writing posts this past year such as Mysticism Monday and Warning You With Tears Wednesday instead of just writing poetry that I began this blog with, so that I could warn all of you of the extreme importance of not only reading and studying God’s Word, but also the extreme importance of testing everything that you hear and read in light of Scripture (Acts 17:11, 1 Thessalonians 5:21,22), as well as the need to help you become aware of Satans devices that he is using to cause many Christians to be led astray and even to become deceived!

Lighthouse Trails has been warning about Moody’s promotion of mysticism and New Age spirituality for over seven years, as you will see by reading this article when time allows:

MOODY’S PASTORS’ CONFERENCE TEACHING LECTIO DIVINA THIS WEEK – AND SEVEN YEARS OF WARNING BY LIGHTHOUSE TRAILS GO UNHEEDED – LIGHTHOUSE TRAILS

Here are just some of the many other special guests that were presented to the listening audience on Moody’s Midday Connection over the past at least six years, and some articles and videos of them, as well. Pray for discernment when you have time to read the articles and listen to the videos below:

 

As previously mentioned, Ruth Haley Barton was one of their guests:

Capture Midday Connection - Ruth Haley Barton - Sacred Rhythms 9-9-15

 

 

 

 

 

Trevor Hudson was on quite frequently, as well. Here are two examples:

Capture Midday Connection - Trevor Hudson - 2-3-2014(SOURCE)

Capture Midday Connection - Trevor Hudson - 3-3-14(SOURCE)

Here’s an article with information on Trevor Hudson posted by DISCERNING THE WORLD – EMERGENT MYSTICISM: A BIBLICAL APPRAISAL OF THE MOSAIC CONGRESS – MOSAIC CHURCH (4-5 SEPT 2009)

 

 

 

John Ortberg

Capture Midday Connection - John Ortberg - 4-22-2014

LETTER TO THE EDITOR: WHAT ABOUT JOHN ORTBERG’S ‘FULLY DEVOTED’ BOOK? MY PASTOR WANTS TO USE IT

Erwin McManus

Capture Midday Connection - Erwin McManus - September 24 2015(SOURCE)

 

ERWIN MCMANUS – HIS GOAL IS TO “DESTROY CHRISTIANITY” – LIGHTHOUSE TRAILS

Below is a quick capture from a portion of one of the many articles concerning Erwin McManus that you will find on Lighthouse Trails at the link above:

Capture Erwin McManus on mysticism - Lighthouse Trails(SOURCE)

 

 

Kyle Strobel, son of Lee Strobel, was also one of their guests.

Capture Midday Connection - Kyle Strobel - Spiritual practices - September 28 2015(SOURCE)

 

Here is more information on Kyle Strobel that I found over two years ago, which should raise your concerns, because, as the saying goes, “One picture is worth a thousands words.”

capture saddleback kyle strobel

Richard Rohr – As I searched the archives of Midday Connection’s previous shows that now only date back to 2014, there were none to be found for Richard Rohr, but I am almost positive that I remember him being on there, and will continue to search for information to verify that for you.

I remember him as being one of the guest speakers on Midday Connection that I was very concerned about! Just by reading some of the titles of the following videos should cause a discerning Christian to become very alarmed!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good information on Richard Rohr by the late Pastor Ken Silva in the following article:

WHO IS RICHARD ROHR

James Bryan Smith

James Bryan Smith was also a featured guest on Midday Connection. His book The Good And Beautiful God was discussed once a week on their programs throughout the entire summer of 2015.

Capture Midday Connection - James Bryan Smith - The Good and Beautiful God - Summer 2015(SOURCE)

Here is an article that I just found which was posted by Lighthouse Trails in which they give a review on his book, as well as inform the very concerned writer of the letter they received that James Bryan Smith is a writer and speaker in the area of Christian spiritual formation and that he has a very close connection with Richard Foster:

LETTER TO THE EDITOR: CONCERNS ABOUT HOME CHURCH USING BOOK BY RENOVARE’S JAMES BRYAN SMITH

 

 

 

 

Margaret Feinberg Margaret Feinberg was also a frequent guest on Midday Connection. As you can see from the quick capture below, she presented many teachings from the Book of Genesis:

Capture Midday Connection - Margaret Feinberg November 17 2015(SOURCE)

In a PREVIOUS POST,  I added a lot of information concerning Margaret Feinberg. Here is just a little of what I wrote in that post to make you aware of some of the troubling things that she says:

“In the following video you will hear Margaret Feinberg say, “God often uses the repetitive nature of events and themes in daily life to get our attention. I call these moments, “Sacred Echoes.”

 

“In the video below, Margaret F. expounds on what she means by “Sacred Echoes” by saying the following.”

“What is a sacred echo? It is the persistent voice of God in your life.”

“And in my own life, while I want to hear the whispers of God, what I am discovering is that when I listen for the sacred echoes — when I listen for the repetitive nature of God’s voice in my life — then I walk more fully, and more confidently into all that He has for me.”

 

In that previous post I concluded expressing my concerns about her by saying the following:

“When you hear Christian leaders and speakers say things like that it should truly concern you, because it’s leading people away from the belief in the sufficiency of Scripture. Yes, Margaret F. does say in many of her videos that ‘what we hear must line up with what God’s Word says,‘ but the emphasis is no longer completely on hearing God speak to us through His written Word. Instead, people are now  encouraged to learn how to hear God speak by not only Margaret F., but also by Christian teachers such as Beth Moore, Priscilla Shirer, and many others. It then makes God’s Word appear to be outdated, and some will end up opening themselves up to doctrines of demons and demonic spirits through participating in these occultic practices and will end up being deceived spiritually. Never lose sight of the fact that we have the very words of God Himself recorded in sixty-six books of the Bible written by many different authors, but completely inspired by the Holy Spirit.”

All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.” (2 Timothy 3:16)

“Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation of things. For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.” (2 Peter 1:20,21)

 

 Ann Voskamp

This program originally aired on November 27, 2013Capture Midday Connection - Ann Voskamp - Greatest Gift - November 23 2015(SOURCE)

Ann Voskamp is the author of the New York Times best selling book One Thousand Gifts. Although our hearts go out to Ann because of the very tragic death of her baby sister which she speaks about in her book as well as on this program, and even though she focuses on the goodness of God in both of them, as well, there are some extremely serious concerns that many Christians have with some of the very disturbing and unbiblical things that Ann Voskamp says in her book. We must be very careful not to be so emotionally moved by something that an author or a speaker says that we forget the importance of praying for discernment, as well as the importance of testing what is being said in light of Scripture. You can read about the serious problems in her book in the following articles:

LIGHTHOUSE TRAILS RESEARCH – ANN VOSKAMP’S BEST SELLING BOOK ONE THOUSAND GIFTS – A COLLISION OF INSPIRATION AND THE NEW SPIRITUALITY

CRITICAL ISSUES COMMENTARY: ROMANTIC PANENTHEISM – A REVIEW OF ONE THOUSAND GIFTS – PASTOR BOB DEWAAY

 

 

 

Mark Buchanan – Original program aired on Dec. 6, 2010

Capture Midday Connection - Mark Buchanan - Spiritual Rhythm Part 4(SOURCE)

 

 

Mary DeMuth – Original program aired on May 19, 2010

In this program, Mary DeMuth shares her heartbreaking story of child abuse in her book entitled, Thin Places (a Celtic term; physical places between heaven and earth were considered “thin places” where they believed “you can sense the presence of God”) and the healing that she said she received after coming to faith in Jesus Christ.

Capture Midday Connection - Ann Voskamp and Mary DeMuth - Thin Places - December 7 2015(SOURCE)

Though the above program was very moving, not only because of hearing what Mary DeMuth went through as a child, but also because of the heartbreaking circumstances that women shared when they called in,   what I discovered while  doing research on A PREVIOUS POST is the fact that Mary DeMuth promotes contemplative spirituality. As you can see in THIS ARTICLE  posted by Lighthouse Trails, in Mary DeMuth’s book Authentic Parenting in a Postmodern Culture, she “favorably quotes [Marjorie] Thompson in three different chapters.” The book that she quoted from was Soul Feast. In the article by Lighthouse Trails, we are told that this book “is a book that promotes mantra meditation and New Age mystics.”

Here is a quick capture from a portion of the article by Lighthouse Trails Research:

Capture Book Alert - Soul Feast by Marjorie Thompson - Favorably quoted by Mary DeMuth(SOURCE)<–Click here to continue reading the article.

Nancy Kane

Ray and Nancy Kane were frequent guests on Midday Connection and discussed topics that focused on marriage and relationships. However, Nancy Kane is also deeply involved in the Spiritual Formation movement which she briefly mentions in this program:

 Capture Midday Connection - Ray and Nancy Kane - Nov 19 2015(SOURCE)

Although I could not find examples of programs in Midday Connection’s archives concerning Keri Wyatt Kent who was one of the guests on the show who promoted and who continues to promote Spiritual Formation and contemplative spirituality, here is some information on her:

Keri Wyatt Kent

Capture Midday Connection - Lighthouse Trails documents Keri Wyatt Kent was a guest and that in her book she has quotes from those in the contemplative mystical world(SOURCE) <–Click here to continue reading

Capture Keri Wyatt Kent -(SOURCE) 

 

 

 

Mindy Caliguire – Although I had never heard of her before, Mindy Caliguire was another person who immediately caused alarm bells to go off in my spirit when I began to hear her speak on Midday Connection.

Capture Midday Connection - Mindy Caliguire - January 30 2014(SOURCE)

After listening to her for the first time, I began searching for information on her later because as I listened to her speak I discovered that she was involved with Willow Creek Community Church where Bill Hybels is the pastor. That definitely heightened my concerns that I already had about her! By all that she said it was very clear that she was also involved in promoting Spiritual Formation. 

Here’s some information on Mindy Caliguire from her Soul Care website:

Capture Mindy Caliguire - Information about her and her Soul Care ministry on her website(SOURCE)

Capture Mindy Caliguire - Soul Care information from website(SOURCE)

Mindy Caliguire promotes Catholic mystic Teresa of Avila as well as Richard Foster’s Renovare’ and Dallas Willard:

Capture Mindy Caliguire on Twitter - Tweets

Mindy Caliguire is also involved in The Practice:

Capture The Practice - Lectio in the morning - Link to Mindy Caliguire's teaching and other links, as well

And as Amy Spreeman of Berean Research tells us in the following article,  WILLOW CREEK’S “THE PRACTICE” BLENDS NEW AGE AND CATHOLIC MYSTICISM, The Practice is:

“… the brainchild of Pastor Bill Hybels son-in-law, Aaron Niequist. Niequist is also the Worship Pastor at Willow Creek Community Church, and he calls a Jesuit priest his spiritual director.”

Here’s a portion of her very revealing article that clearly shows you the intent for The Practice:

Capture The Practice - Quick capture of a portion of article by Berean Research - Amy Spreeman(SOURCE)

This tweet by Aaron Niequist that Mindy Caliguire retweets, again confirms to you her promotion of Spiritual Formation. A term that may seem innocent enough, but as you take the time to read the articles that I have added links to, as well as watch the videos below, you will come to realize that it’s simply New Age meditation techniques cloaked in somewhat Christian terminology. Please do not be deceived by those who promote this! Our minds are renewed and we are conformed into the image of Jesus Christ through the reading of God’s Word! These practices will only succeed in leading Christians away from the sufficiency of Scripture by telling you that you can have experiences with God! God’s Word is all that we need to truly come to know Him through Jesus Christ and to become like Him. (Read Hebrews 1, Romans 12:2, Colossians 3:1-14, 2 Timothy 3:16, Ephesians 4:22-32, just to name a few Scriptures).

 

Capture Mindy Caliguire - Retweets Aaron Niequist's tweet concerning The Practice and Spiritual Formation

In the following series of videos, Mindy Caliguire also had another one which was entitled, Practicing Silent Prayer. However, it seems that because of the comments that I remember discerning Christians had made on that video, she must have decided to remove it.

 

 

 

As I was doing more research today, 1/4/16, desiring to finally finish writing this post, I did another search on Lighthouse Trails hoping to find some information on Mindy Caliguire’s video, Practicing Silent Prayer  that she must have removed from her series like I just mentioned to you above, and was so thankful to have found an article that had been written by Mike Stanwood which included information on that video! Here is a portion of his article that I quick captured for you:

Capture Mindy Caliguire - Information quick captured from article on Lighthouse Trails concerning the video I saw that has since been removed, entitled Practicing Silent Prayer(SOURCE)<– Click here to continue reading.

David Jeremiah

Moody radio also airs David Jeremiah’s program, Turning Point. There was a time when he strongly warned about the New Age Movement in his book and audio series Invasion of Other Gods, (which I personally have). Sadly, however, he now promotes Roma Downey, who is deeply involved in the New Age Movement.

Capture Picture - Twitter - David Jeremiah interviews Roma Downey promotes A D series

Here’s some information concerning Roma Downey:

NEW BOOKLET TRACT- CONFUSED BY AN ANGEL: THE DILEMMA OF ROMA DOWNEY’S NEW AGE BELIEFS – LIGHTHOUSE TRAILS

 

David Jeremiah also ‘opened his pulpit to Contemplative Advocate, John Ortberg‘ as Lighthouse Trails documents for us below:

Capture Lighthouse Trails - David Jeremiah has John Ortberg as guest speaker at his Shadow Mountain church for Summer Bible Conference(SOURCE) <– Click here to continue reading

As you can see, John Ortberg was also a guest on Midday Connection:

Capture Midday Connection - John Ortberg - 4-22-2014(SOURCE)

 

Here is some information on John Ortberg that was written by James Sundquist of Rock Salt Ministries which I found posted at DECEPTION IN THE CHURCH– JOHN ORTBERG EXPOSE’

John Ortberg and Joyce Meyer discuss “how to experience God in every day life.” He also mentions Catholic mystic, Brother Lawrence and “practicing the presence of God.” 

 

 

 

Further below you will see an example of another Moody Radio program, This Is The Day, with Nancy Turner. Nathan Foster, the son of Richard Foster, was her featured guest. The “ancient practice of spiritual disciplines” was the topic of their conversation.

As her program began, Nancy Turner invited those who tuned in to her program to continue listening, by saying:

“Hope you’ll stay tuned to hear the insights from saints of old to uncover fresh ways of of living in our world today.”

She introduced Nathan Foster by saying the following:

“Nathan is associate professor of social work and theology at Spring Arbor University in Michigan. He holds the Andrews Chair in Spiritual Formation. He’s also a licensed Clinical Social Worker and the Director of Teaching Ministries for Renovare.’ 

When asked by Nancy Turner to explain what Renovare’ is, Nathan said the following:

“Renovare’ is a nonprofit organization that my dad set up, and essentially it is kind of an outgrowth of his work and Dallas Willard’s work in helping equip the church with teachings on Spiritual Formation and how people grow into  Christ-likeness.”

Capture Moody Radio - This Is The Day - Nathan Foster Richard Foster's son - Ancient practices of spiritual disciplines (SOURCE)

To read about the many concerns that discerning Christians have with Renovare,’ please consider reading some of THESE ARTICLES POSTED ON LIGHTHOUSE TRAILS

Also, if you are not aware of who Dallas Willard is, here’s some information for you:

LIGHTHOUSE TRAILS RESEARCH – DALLAS WILLARD GOING DOWN THE CONTEMPLATIVE ROAD, AND TAKING OTHERS WITH HIM

 

 

The clearest evidence that I can present to you to show you that Moody is indeed promoting Spiritual Formation, (if everything that I have already shared with you wasn’t enough) is the fact that Moody Bible Institute now has a  Spiritual Formation program, (which Nancy Kane briefly mentioned in her November 19th visit on Midday Connection) and upon completion of the class you will  receive a Spiritual Formation certificate:

Capture Moody Bible Institute Spiritual Formation Certificate 1 of 2

Capture Moody Bible Institute Spiritual Formation Certificate 2 of 2 - Program Objectives(SOURCE)

If you are still unaware of what Spiritual Formation is and the dangers that you can encounter in most of these teachings, please consider reading the following articles, as well as the articles that I have added under Further Reading. When time allows, I encourage you to watch the videos further below, as well.

SPIRITUAL FORMATION – PASTOR GARY GILLEY

ROOTS OF THE SPIRITUAL FORMATION MOVEMENT – PASTOR GARY GILLEY

 

When time allows, I will be updating this post by adding more information and videos, as well as some notes that I took as I frequently listened to Midday Connection’s programs in order to do research on the many guests they had on over the many years they were on.  It would not be an exaggeration to say that at least 98% of their guests were — and still are — involved in the practice and promotion of mysticism and unbiblical spiritual disciplines at various degrees. Simply by looking at the information that I have already provided for you, I am almost certain that you will agree.

UPDATED: 2/20/16

HERE ARE SOME UPDATES FOR YOU:

Upon discovering that Moody Radio chose Equipped as their new show that would replace Midday Connection, I decided to listen in on January 7th 2016 to get an idea of what they would now be presenting to their listeners:

Capture New program - Equipped - replaces Midday Connection - Guest Dr Sue Edwards(SOURCE)

 Capture Moody Radio - Equipped - with Chris Brooks(SOURCE)

The description of this show reminds me of In The Market with Janet Parshall because they discuss topics in light of our culture today. At first I thought that this show might be good, because from the little that I heard the host of the show, Chris Brooks, say that day, he seemed very discerning and he is aware of the fact that spiritual deception is a big concern these days, and it sounded like Dr. Sue Edwards seemed to be presenting some good Bible studies by listening to much of what she had to say, as well. While I am not going to judge Chris Brooks by simply listening to one of his shows, what I soon discovered about Dr. Sue Edwards did cause me to become concerned:

Wanting to be certain that this particular speaker was Biblically solid, and that she wasn’t into anything related to Spiritual Formation since it seems that these teachings are especially permeating countless number of churches and ministries these days, I decided to do some research on Dr. Sue Edwards. Sadly, as you can see from the information that I quick captured for you below, she is on staff at Dallas Theological Seminary where they are  presenting these teachings to their students, and they have now merged their Christian Education and Spiritual Formation & Leadership departments:

Capture Sue Edwards - Dallas Theological Seminary merges Christian Education and Spiritual Formation and Leadership Departments

Capture Spiritual Formation - Dallas Theological Seminary

Capture Sue Edwards - Dallas Theological Seminary - Method of Spiritual Formation - An Overview of the Four Semesters(SOURCE)

Sue Edwards, along with Barbara Neumann, wrote the following book which caught my attention because the term organic, when not referring to food, can mean something new, vibrant, and unique in the language of the New Christianity:

LIGHTHOUSE TRAILS – NEW BOOKLET TRACT: D IS FOR DECEPTION-THE LANGUAGE OF THE “NEW” CHRISTIANITY

Capture Sue Edwards - Organic Mentoring

After looking at a preview of this book on Amazon it clearly shows that the intent of this book is to explore ways that will be successful to mentor young women in order to keep the relationship going between mentor and mentee, and by the little that they showed in the preview, there doesn’t appear to be anything troubling in this book. However, just the fact that Spiritual Formation is strongly promoted at DTS is reason enough to be extremely hesitant about purchasing this book.

In the following video as Organic Mentoring is discussed, George M. Hillman had this to say towards the end of their discussion beginning at the 28:29 minute mark:

“Plug for my department: Many of you are in a Spiritual Formation group…that’s mentoring! That is pure mentoring. And you have an opportunity to invest in people’s lives and not just your leader in the group but you invest in one another’s lives. And I’ll go a sales pitch with this aspect of…if you want to learn this stuff,  guess what. Be a SF leader. We’ll give you a group of people and say, “Hang out with these people and love on these people.”

As I continued to search for information I came across this Spiritual Formation series that is based on a  curriculum which was developed at Dallas Theological Seminary which I have added to further demonstrate that Sue Edwards is indeed involved in Spiritual Formation. Not only is she is on staff at a seminary that teaches Spiritual Formation, but also she is on staff at a school that develops Spiritual Formation curriculum. Therefore Moody is still continuing to feature speakers on their programs that are involved in Spiritual Formation, some more deeply than others.

Capture Spiritual Formation program based on curriculum developed at Dallas Theological Seminary - Intro

 

Below you will see that Dallas Willard (who is now deceased) and Richard Foster, who both have strongly promoted mysticism in their teachings, are favorably mentioned:

Capture Spiritual Formation program - Spiritual Disciplines 2 - Dallas Willard and Richard Foster are quoted(SOURCE)

 

 

In Part 3 of this series, which is entitled Integrity, you can see by the list below that Spiritual Disciplines are a part of this course. To what extent, I do not know, but it is very possible that since Dallas Willard and  Richard Foster are quoted favorably in their series, the mystical practice of Contemplative Prayer may very well be included in their Spiritual Discipline practices.

Capture Spiritual Formation program - 3rd part in 4 part series - Spiritual Disciplines mentioned(SOURCE)

UPDATED 2/22/16

After discovering that Sue Edwards had some of her teachings on YouTube, I decided to listen to many of them to test them in light of Scripture. Here is one of them that I would like to bring to your attention:

Beginning at the 4:57 minute mark in the above video you will see the following information that I quick captured for you below:

Capture Sue Edwards - Recommends Henry Cloud in her video

As you can see from the information above, Sue Edwards listed Henry Cloud’s book as one of her Recommended Resources.

This is very troubling in light of the fact that as Lighthouse Trails shows us in the following article (that I quick captured a portion of for you below), Dr. Henry Cloud wrote the forward to the Be Still book (the companion to the 2006 Be Still DVD that featured Beth Moore, Henry Cloud, Richard Foster, Dallas Willard, Priscilla Shirer, and more) in which he “makes comments that clearly show the true nature of this mystical spirituality.”

Capture Dr. Henry Cloud - Lighthouse Trails documents his promotion of mysticism(SOURCE)<– Click here to read this very good article in its entirety, or click on the link below.

LIGHTHOUSE TRAILS – BE STILL BOOK CONFIRMS TRUE NATURE OF CONTEMPLATIVE PRAYER

END OF 2/22/26 UPDATE

Another thing that I would like to bring to your attention as you can see from the quick capture below, is the fact that Moody Founder’s Week just took place on February 1st through the 5th:

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As you can see from the schedule below and the video that follows, one of their guest speakers was Ann Voskamp. Earlier in this post I shared with you the serious concerns that many have with what she presents in her books.

Capture Moody Bible Institute Founder's Week - Feb 1-5 2016 Schedule(SOURCE)<–All of the above information that I quick captured can be accessed here. You can listen to all of the sessions from Founder’s Week 2016 here, as well).

 

Thanks to Debi Martin, (who must also be a detective-at-heart like I am) it was made known on Facebook that Moody Theological Seminary is having a Spiritual Formation Retreat this weekend. By doing so, they are now  more openly declaring  just how strongly they are promoting Spiritual Formation:

Capture Moody Theological Seminary Spiritual Formation Retreat 2016

So upon seeing the above post, I decided to see what else I could find out about this Retreat, and I discovered this video and the following information:

 

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Capture Moody Theological Seminary Spiritual Formation Retreat - Key Details

Capture Moody Theological Seminary Spiritual Formation Retreat - About the Discipleship Cohort Ministry - Final Part(SOURCE)

Why is it that those in leadership at Moody are so lacking in discernment? Why are they not aware of the fact that because of the many ways that they are promoting Spiritual Formation, they are actually presenting New Age/New Spirituality practices that are rooted in Hinduism and Buddhism to Christians? Why are they not carefully examining what Christian speakers actually say and write in light of Scripture before they choose them to speak at their Conferences?

Why is it that so many Christians in leadership positions today lack discernment? Is it that they no longer see a need to examine the Scriptures daily to see if what these pastors and speakers are saying is true? (Acts 17:11) Have they forgotten or are they just ignoring the many warnings in Scripture about doctrines of demons (1 Timothy 4:1) and false teachers, and that many of these false teachers will arise from among us? (Acts 20:30) Do many in leadership today just seek after those speakers who are the most popular and highly sought after in order to attract more people to their conferences and retreats? God will judge their hearts and their motives one day, but this is very troubling because oftentimes they are failing to protect their sheep! And because of the many in leadership these days who are strongly promoting Spiritual Formation Classes and the Spiritual Disciplines which almost always include Contemplative Prayer, Lectio Divina, and other mystical practices that can be found in Buddhism and Hinduism, they are actually leading many Christians astray and right into Satan’s territory!

As Christians all of us are accountable before God for what we choose to do, but I truly hope that we are coming to realize more and more that we are to trust and to follow no one but the one and only Good Shepherd — Jesus Christ — and how we are only to believe the God-breathed words recorded in His Word –the Bible. END OF 2/20/16 UPDATE

IN CLOSING

Dr. Harry Ironside, former pastor of Moody Memorial Church from 1930-1948, wrote an  article, entitled, Exposing Error: Is It Worthwhile?  I answer that question with a hearty, “YES!” As I began to write this post I thought about him and how deeply grieved he would be if he knew about the many spiritually deceptive teachings that are now being promoted today through the ministry that he was once a part of.

I can think of no better way to pay tribute to him than by sharing it with you here as a way to carry on his legacy of earnestly contending for the faith. Here is a portion of his article that I quick captured from The Berean Call:

Capture Exposing Error - Is It Worthwhile - Dr Harry Ironside - Quick capture from Berean Call Website(SOURCE) <–Click here to continue reading.

It is my hope and prayer that those on staff at Moody will come to the realization that they are drifting away from the Biblical foundation that this ministry was founded upon, and that they would repent and return to presenting Biblical principles through their radio programs, their publications, and through their classes at Moody Bible Institute, and put a stop to presenting any speaker or writer who promote these unbiblical New Age/New Spirituality pagan practices that are being promoted through Spiritual Formation.

Please know that this post was not written with the intention of attacking Lori Neff, Melinda Schmidt and Anita Lustria, for I truly see them as sweet and loving women. However, I pray that their eyes will be opened to see the dangerous spiritual path that they are going down — and leading others down — which is leading them and many other women away from Biblical Christianity, not only because of their deep involvement in Spiritual Formation and the mystical practices that they are promoting, but also because of their involvement with the many others who are promoting  these things, as well.

Thank you very much for stopping by and taking time out of your busy day to read some of my posts and poems.

God Bless You

~Mary/Living4HisGlory

 

RELATED SCRIPTURES

“As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming and of the end of the age?” Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you.” (Matthew 24:3,4)

“Now the Spirit speaketh expressly that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils.” (1 Timothy 4:1)

“Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour.” (1 Peter 5:8)

“Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” (2 Timothy 2:15)

“I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel — which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!” (Galatians 1:6-9)

“But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent’s cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough.” (2 Corinthians 11:3,4)

“But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you.” (2 Peter 2:1)

“Therefore seeing we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we faint not; But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God. But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus’ sake.” (2 Corinthians 4:1-5)

“I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.” (Romans 1:16)

“Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it. Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.” (Matthew 7: 13-15)

“Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men. after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.” (Colossians 2:8)

“All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His kingdom, I give you this charge: Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage — with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when  men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.” (2 Timothy 3:16,17-4:1-4)

“For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.” (2 Corinthians 11:13-15)

“Humble yourselves, therefore, under God’s mighty hand, that He may lift you up in due time. Cast all your anxiety on Him because He cares for you. Be self-controlled and alert. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.” (1 Peter 5:6-8)

“Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.” (1 John 4:1)

“Therefore, I declare to you today that I am innocent of the blood of all men. For I have not hesitated to proclaim to you the whole will of God. Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which He bought with His own blood. I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard! Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears.” (Acts 20:26-31)

 

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Have you unknowingly been lured into New Age mystical practices by teachers claiming that certain “new ways to pray” will bring you closer to God? Have you signed up for classes in Spiritual Formation? Have you been involved in Centering Prayer , Contemplative Prayer, or Lectio Divina ? Well, this new series of posts in the new Category of posts that I have entitled, ‘MYSTICISM MONDAYS‘ will attempt to peel back the layers of spiritual deception and present you with the truth of God’s Word that will expose the dangers of these practices. Lord willing, at least once a month on a Monday, I will be sharing teachings with you from Christian experts on the subject, some of whom have even been personally involved with these dangerous practices. All of these teachings that I will be presenting to you will focus on many Scriptures; those who speak on these topics will not just be talking about these practices, because it’s only the truth of God’s Word that will expose the dangers of these practices and set a deceived person free.

Lord willing, when time allows, I will be writing many posts in the future zeroing in on specific Christian programming and Christian teachers who are promoting these deceptive practices, but since my time is getting rather limited these days because of other important responsibilities that I have, I will oftentimes simply be sharing a video with you.

When time allows, I truly hope and pray that you will take the time to listen to these messages and read the upcoming posts on this important topic so that you can be aware of these false teachings that are deceiving many Christians –possibly even you.

Please test the teachings of all those whom you listen to against Scripture as God’s Word shows us that we are to do (Acts 17:11) so that you will never be deceived.

Now for today’s Mysticism Monday:

Below you will find a video Playlist in which you will hear another one of my favorite speakers, Roger Oakland, of UNDERSTAND THE TIMES. In his presentation he will clearly show you how there is a One World Religion for peace forming and how there is a plan to win the world to the Roman Catholic Jesus –the Eucharistic Christ. If you are a former Catholic like I am, you will understand who/what this Eucharistic Christ is. If not, your eyes will soon be opened to discover how many Christians are being led astray by this Eucharistic Christ because not only are they failing to test things in light of Scripture, but also they are falling for the popular deceptive teachings that cause Christians to seek after having mystical experiences with God above seeking to know God through His Word.

In the following presentation, Roger Oakland shares many articles and documented evidence in order to show you how these mystical practices that are being promoted in many churches today (via the  Emerging/Emergent Church through Spiritual Formation, Lectio Divina, Contemplative Prayer, etc.), are being used to entice Evangelical Christians to travel down the road of mysticism which leads to Rome.  Oftentimes, when Christians involve themselves in these mystical practices that began with Catholic monks, known as the desert fathers, it causes them to embrace Roman Catholicism  itself, which is the goal of the New Evangelization program of Roman Catholicism.

Watching Roger Oakland’s videos concerning Roman Catholicism and Another Jesus made me see the connection with the Manifest Presence of God that is the focus of the messages of some popular pastors and teachers today, with what is called the Real Presence in Catholicism, and how these two could easily merge together one day. We must be aware of Church History and, above all, what God’s Word teaches, so that we will not be deceived, because, as you well know, history often repeats itself.

Do you know God’s Word well enough so that you will not be deceived by these false, mystical teachings that are being promoted in many Christian churches today claiming to lead you into having a deeper and more intimate relationship with Jesus Christ? Are you seeking to know God through His Word? Or will you sadly be among those who are being led astray today because you have fallen for the lie that God’s Word is not enough, and that you can now have experiences with God?

When time allows, I hope and pray that you will watch Roger Oakland’s presentation so that you will become aware of  yet another way in which mysticism is being used these days to cause Christians to seek after having experiences with God, and lead them away from Biblical truth that can be found in God’s Word alone.

The titles of the videos in this four part presentation are as follows:

1)Another Jesus

2)Another Spirit

3)Road To Rome

4)Road To Babylon

 

 

 

Are you aware of the teachings of Catholicism and how they compare to Scripture? It is extremely important for you to know, not only because  these mystical practices that are being promoted today are rooted in the teachings of Catholic mystics, but also because of the fact that Catholicism teaches “another Jesus” and “another gospel,” and many Christians are being led astray by their teachings. Do you know God’s Word well enough so that you could lovingly and patiently share the good news of the gospel with a precious Catholic if the opportunity arises?

Lord willing, I hope to have my post completed by the end of November in which I will compare many of the teachings that can be found in the Catechism of the Catholic Church against the truth of God’s Word. I hope that you will consider checking back here towards the end of next month and learn how to discern truth from error when it comes to Catholicism. Until then, please read and study God’s Word and continue to test all that you read and listen to against the truth of God’s Word so that you will not be among the many Christians who are being deceived today.

Thank you very much for stopping by and taking time out of your busy day to read some of my posts and poems.

God Bless You

~Mary Dalke/Living4HisGlory

 

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“As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming and of the end of the age?” Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you.” (Matthew 24:3,4)

“Now the Spirit speaketh expressly that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils.”          (1 Timothy 4:1)

“Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour.” (1 Peter 5:8)

“Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” (2 Timothy 2:15)

“I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel — which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!” (Galatians 1:6-9)

“But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent’s cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough.” (2 Corinthians 11:3,4)

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 Capture Eyes with tears 1Welcome to another post in the series of posts that I have entitled, Warning You With Tears Wednesdays. Lord willing, at least once a month on Wednesdays I will be writing and sharing one of these posts with you so that I can make you all aware of some important information that I come across on the Internet that you may not have heard about.

Since I knew that I would soon be starting a new job (and I did last month)  and that my free time would then be somewhat limited, I was trying to think of something that I could write on a regular basis that would be short and to the point (at least that was my intention). And since I am a detective-at-heart and desire to make you all aware of the importance of testing things that pastors and teachers say (and do) in light of Scripture (Acts 17:11), the idea to do these posts — as well as the name — came to my mind in November of 2014, based on Acts 20:26-31:

“For I have not hesitated to proclaim to you the whole will of God. Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which He bought with His own blood. I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard! Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears.”

So with all of that in mind, here is what I’d like to share with you in today’s WARNING YOU WITH TEARS WEDNESDAY:

FROM THE LIGHTHOUSE BLOG – LECTIO DIVINA – WHAT IT IS, WHAT IT IS NOT, AND SHOULD CHRISTIANS PRACTICE IT?

You’d be aghast at the > LIST OF SPEAKERS < at this ‘Parliament of the World Religions’ that Brian McLaren is speaking at, in light of one of my previous post that I just finished writing:

NEW AGE LEONARD SWEET – A CHAMELEON BLENDING IN AMONG CHRISTIANS AND CLEAR EVIDENCE FOR A LACK OF SPIRITUAL DISCERNMENT AMONG CHRISTIANS,

The speakers include the spiritual leader of Tibetan Buddhism who is the 14th Dalai Lama, a former Roman Catholic nun, Chief Arvol Runninghorse, as well as a New Thought minister, a rabbi, a Hindu author and environmental justice activist, the founder and editor of Sojourners magazine –Jim Wallis, and many others.  You can read more about this gathering at the following link:

FROM THE LIGHTHOUSE BLOG – LETTER TO THE EDITOR: BRIAN MCLAREN, JIM WALLIS, MARIANNE WILLIAMSON SPEAKING AT “PARLIAMENT OF THE WORLD RELIGIONS”

As stated in the link above, one of the speakers at this Global Interfaith Movement gathering is Marrianne Williamson. Many of you are probably not aware of who she is — unless, of course you have seen her on Oprah. If so, then you are also aware of her book A Return To Love, as well as the book that she strongly promoted on Oprah and continues to promote, called, ‘A Course in Miracles.’ This book was written by Helen Schucman, a Columbia University professor who wrote this book over a span of seven years after hearing a voice — claiming to be Jesus Christ — say to her,

“This is a Course in Miracles. Please take notes.”

Here are some of the things that this Jesus of the Course in Miracles teaches:

“God did not create the world.”

“We are all equally Christ.”

“Jesus is not the only Son of God.”

“My salvation comes from me.”

“There is no sin, no evil, and no devil, and “God is “in” everyone and everything.”

This course states:

“This is a course in mind training” and is dedicated to thought reversal.” (SOURCE – VIDEO SERIES  BELOW)

When time allows, please watch these videos to learn about the many messages from this Jesus whose words contradict God’s Word in many blasphemous ways, so that you are aware of the many spiritually deceptive teachings that are attempting to destroy Christianity:

Now maybe you understand a little better why so many Christians are warning about Sarah Young‘s book Jesus Calling, because she claims to have written her book in a very similar way. Below you will see a “quick capture” from a portion of an interview that Sarah Young did with CBN in which she said that her inspiration to write Jesus Calling was a ‘devotional’ with a similar title —God Calling. For your information, this book was written back in the 1930s by two anonymous women who simply called themselves “two listeners.” That “devotional” book was very popular in the 1980’s when I first became a Christian and it was sold at the book store of the Assembly of God Church that I once attended. Because I dabbled in the occult before I was a Christian, and attempted to contact the spirits through automatic writing, I knew very well that the book God Calling was not a Christian book! Here’s an excerpt from God Calling:

“But with my friend a very wonderful thing happened. From the first, beautiful messages were given to her FROM THE LORD HIMSELF, and every day from then these messages have never failed us. We felt all unworthy and overwhelmed by the wonder of it, and could hardly realize that we were being taught, trained and encouraged day by day BY HIM PERSONALLY,when millions of souls who are far worthier, had to be content with guidance from the Bible, sermons, their Churches, books and other sources.” (God Calling” Page 11-12 ) (Emphasis in red is mine).

Can you see the danger in reading devotionals like God Calling and Jesus Calling? They are considered to be new revelations by Jesus Christ Himself! This will lead many Christians to abandon the true Word of God — The Bible — for counterfeit words from a counterfeit Jesus!

Capture Sarah Young CBN interview concerning 'God Calling'Although Sarah Young accurately states that “the Bible is the only infallible record of God speaking,”and also gives some Biblical advise in her “cautions” below, she fails to recognize the fact that this practice mirrors the occult practice of automatic writing. She also misinterprets Psalm 46:10 as many who promote Contemplative Prayer often do. (See article under Further Reading).

Capture Sarah Young 'Jesus Calling'(SOURCE)

As you will discover in the following article and the videos below, Sarah Young also fails to test the spirits — as well as the messages from this Jesus — in light of Scripture. This information is also for those of you who have requested Book Reviews:

Here is some very detailed information by Warren B Smith concerning the messages that Sarah Young claims to have received from Jesus which were written  down and recorded in her extremely popular Jesus Calling devotionals which have sold millions.

Warren has been a Christian for many years, but he was once deeply involved in the New Age Movement. He now writes books and speaks at many Christian Conferences so that he can warn Christians about Contemplative Prayer, Spiritual Formation, Yoga, and many other ways in which the New Age Movement has made its way into the church. Because these New Age/New Spirituality practices are cloaked in somewhat Christian terminology they are deceiving many people. That is why it is so extremely important for us as Christians to “examine the Scriptures daily to see if what is being said (and done) is true.” (Acts 17:11)

NEW BOOKLET TRACT CHANGING “JESUS CALLING” – DAMAGE CONTROL FOR A FALSE CHRIST

 

 

Many Christians are also warning other Christians about another book that is deceiving many Christians and leading them to embrace a completely different view of God and salvation — The Shack . Read this article >  IN CASE YOU’RE STILL NOT SURE ABOUT THE SHACK AND ITS AUTHOR – (LIGHTHOUSE TRAILS RESEARCH BLOG)

I’m sorry that I have to remind you of what you may be trying to shove to the back of your mind, but…summer is quickly coming to an end, which also means that your children will soon be going back to school. To some of you that may be good news. To others, the thought of them going back to school makes you sad because you thoroughly enjoy spending all that extra time with your children. Whatever the case may be, I am sure that all of you deeply love and care about your children. So here are a few things that you truly need to be aware of concerning what is happening in many schools these days so you can warn your children, and know what to look for when school does start:

ARTICLETHE NEW AGE, OCCULTISM, AND OUR CHILDREN IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS (LIGHTHOUSE TRAILS RESEARCH BLOG)

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SHOCKING GENDER INDOCTRINATION IN CALIFORNIA – ARTICLE AND VIDEO STAND UP FOR THE TRUTH

The following article is filled with the most disturbing information that I came across recently, and it  truly reveals the hardness of heart and the blindness to sin that many have today. Reading things like the following article should truly makes a Christian realize the awfulness of sin and the immense patience and mercy of God:

“The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.” (2 Peter 3:9)

NEWLY RELEASED VIDEO EXPOSING THE HUMAN TRAFFICKING OF BABY BODY PARTS

Please pray for God to open the eyes of those involved in the abortion industry which involves not only the brutal destruction of thousands of precious unborn babies, but also the manipulation and devastation of  many women who are emotionally and physically damaged by how they are treated and what they observe during the abortion process.

Please also pray for the women who have chosen or will choose to have abortions, that they will find forgiveness and healing through Jesus Christ. Pray that God will one day use these women for His glory to let their stories be told to stop other women from making the wrong choice, and that these women would choose life instead.

Pray for the women who are now contemplating having an abortion, that they will have a change of heart after coming across information that will show them the humanity of their child within their womb. Pray that they will connect with one of the many online support groups that help women through the whole course of their pregnancy, such as ONLINE FOR LIFE. (Click HERE to listen to the stories of the many women who chose life, and even the story of one young woman who regretfully did not).

Some organizations will even help arrange for a woman’s baby to be adopted into a loving family if they choose to give their baby up. Many women who choose to make this difficult choice do so out of a desire to do what’s best for their child.

This is a time when we should not judge these women, but instead we must reach out with the love of Jesus Christ and help them in the midst of their situation so that they will see hope in what may appear to them as a hopeless and very frightening situation.

One thing is for sure. So far, this year has been the darkest one spiritually as we continue to observe the hearts of mankind growing harder and more wicked, and so outright rebellious against a thrice Holy God! It makes many of us who are Christians stop and wonder:

“How long, O Lord, will You continue to be patient and wait until You gather those of us who have placed their trust in Your Son’s finished work on the cross to Yourself, and then begin to pour out Your wrath on an unrepentant world?” 

If you have not yet come to the point of realizing that you are a sinner in need of a Savior — as we all are —  I pray that your eyes would soon be opened to realize the truth. I pray that with godly sorrow in your heart because of all the wrong that you have done against a completely God, you would  turn from your sins to Him, and live in such a way that it will bring glory and honor to Him for all that He did to set you free from the bondage of sin.

SCRIPTURES TO REFLECT ON

“Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Come near to God and He will come near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. Grieve, mourn and wail. Change your laughter to mourning and your joy to gloom. Humble yourselves before the Lord, and He will lift you up.” (James 4:7-10)

“The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.” (1 Timothy 4:1)

“But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent’s cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ.  For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough.” (2 Corinthians 11:3,4)

“Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ, who gave Himself for our sins to rescue us from the present evil age, according to the will of our God and Father, to whom be glory for ever and ever.  Amen.  I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel– which is really no gospel at all.  Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ.  But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned.  As we have already said, so now I say again:  If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!” (Galatians 1:3-9)

“In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of his appearing and his kingdom, I give you this charge: Preach the word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage—with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.” (2 Timothy 4:1-4)

“Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness? Or what harmony has Christ with Belial, or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever? Or what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; just as God said, “I will dwell in them and walk among them; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.” (2 Corinthians 6:14-16)

“Come to Me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.” (Matthew 11:28-30)

 

Thank you for stopping by and taking time out of your busy day to read some of my posts and poems.

God Bless You

~Mary Dalke/Living4HisGlory

 

FURTHER READING:

WARREN B SMITH – ONLINE BOOK – REINVENTING JESUS CHRIST: MEDITATION AND CONTEMPLATIVE PRAYER – (CHAPTER 5)

 

 

**UPDATED 5/16/13 8:38p.m.** Unfortunately all the videos I added below of the HTB Leadership Conference are now marked ‘private.’ =/  Hopefully some of you were able to watch them before that happened.  After I finish writing and posting my testimony, Lord willing, I would like to share with you some of the concerns I have after watching much of the conference.  I will tell you this much…Rick Warren already agreed to be one of the speakers for the 2014 HTB Leadership Conference, as announced by Nicky Gumbel.

For many of us who formerly attended — or still attend — Harvest Bible Chapel Rolling Meadows, we have valid reasons to be concerned about James MacDonald’s involvement with Steven Furtick.  And I’d like to share with you another reason why we should be concerned about Steven Furtick that some of you may not be aware of.  But first I need to share this with you:

On Monday, November 19th 2012, I was listening to Janet Parshall’s program ‘In The Market’ as I always do on my way home from work.  She has many excellent programs that make her listening audience aware of so many things that are happening all around us, and yet often times go unnoticed.  From a program on remote abortions–where we learned that a young woman can simply sit in her bed in an abortion clinic, and as she speaks to a ‘doctor’ via a video screen, she just tells him she wants to have an abortion, and with the click of a control on his end, a drawer to a small side cabinet at the woman’s bedside will then open.  Inside this drawer she will find a pill which she will then take that will slowly (and tragically, I might add) put an end to the life of her unborn child.  Far removed from the actual room where this is taking place, this doctor coldly, and intentionally, assists in taking the life of many, many precious children. 

And on the opposite side of the abortion issue, Janet has had programs where she shares some good news concerning many women who once worked in abortion clinics, but then after witnessing certain things, such as a baby being born alive during an abortion procedure, they came to the realization that abortions are indeed murder, and they left the abortion industry. 

Janet’s listeners have also heard many wonderful testimonies of women who have said ‘no’ to having an abortion just  moments before entering an abortion clinic all because of mobile units that were placed outside of the clinic that had an ultrasound machine inside.  Women were lovingly asked by prolife volunteers who stood near the clinic if they would like to come in and see their baby by means of the ultrasound machine that was inside.  After viewing the active, and fearfully and wonderfully formed child within their womb, many women have their eyes opened to see the truth; that within them is not a “clump of tissue”  as many women are told by doctors and nurses at these clinics, but indeed, a baby complete with fingers and toes, and many quickly change their minds and do not go through with the abortion.

However, in spite of the many heart moving, as well as very informative programs that Janet has had, and continues to have, she has had a few guests on her programs that have filled me with valid concerns.  One of them was Gerald Long, who is the President of Alpha USA, and he spoke with Janet in the beginning of the first hour of her program dated Nov. 19th 2012.  Hearing Janet express praise of the Alpha Course for all her listeners to hear, shocked and disappointed me.  And above all, raised some serious concerns for the many listeners who would be influenced by her endorsement of the Alpha Course, and possibly choose to get involved with it.

Beginning at the 17:33 mark, Janet says  

..and I spent some time… about 20 minutes 25 minutes earlier today just going back and reviewing a marvelous message that Nicky gave at an opening dinner for the Alpha Course that I think with clarity says what the Alpha Course  is all about.” 

After the break, beginning at the 18:40 mark, Janet goes on to say the following to Gerard Long, 

“…in all that I’ve ever read or studied about the Alpha Course I’ve been very comfortable that it is a clear declaration of the gospel of Jesus Christ.” 

To hear her say that deeply filled me with concern, because, If you are already aware of the valid concerns that many have with Nicky Gumbel’s Alpha Course, it does not ‘clearly declare the gospel of Jesus Christ,’ but rather promotes a message of  salvation by works, and introduces people to rituals and occultic practices, as you will learn by the information I have posted below for you.

Towards the very end of their time together the focus of their conversation was on ‘unity’, and how the messages presented in the Alpha Course is bringing many churches together.  Near the end of  her conversation with Gerald Long, Janet says the following to him about the Alpha Course…

“And throughout the core of those messages is the Word of God which is by its very definition  transcendent, therefore it transcends denominational divisions, correct?” 

And of course Gerald Long agreed.  Unity among true Bible believing Christians is a good thing, but the Alpha Course is promoting unity at the expense of sound Biblical doctrine.  And that is something we as Bible believing Christians cannot promote or be a part of.

You can listen to their 24 minute conversation in Hour 1 of her program here>>FINDING PURPOSE AND LIFE  Be prepared to *roll your eyes* and deeply sigh out of concern and shock as I did while listening to this program. 😦

I shared all of the above with you in order to tell you the following:  Two weeks from today, on Monday, May 13th, 2013, as well as on Tuesday, May 14th, 2013, Holy Trinity Brompton, the largest Anglican church in Britain, will again be presenting their Leadership Conference.  Since 1990 Nicky Gumbel has been the leader of the Alpha Course.  Holy Trinity Brompton church is known for their promotion of the ‘Toronto Blessing,’  with includes manifestations of animal noises and bodily jerking supposedly produced in the people by the Holy Spirit. 

On their website they state the following concerning the upcoming Leadership Conference: 

“HTB Leadership Conference is a unique opportunity for leaders from many different parts of society to come together to worship God and to learn skills which will enable them to grow in the sphere of influence to which they have been called.”  SOURCE <Click here to see the list of 64 guest speakers, worship leaders, and more information about this conference.

One person among the 64 listed as guest speakers and worship leaders, is… yes, you guessed it…none other than Steven Furtick.  And even though there are many guest speakers at this conference that I am not yet familiar with, there are others besides Steven Furtick that I am aware of, which will give those of us who are ‘earnestly contending for the faith’ (Jude 3) valid reasons to be concerned.  Some of the other names that immediately raise a red flag are as follows:

Bill Hybels, Cardinal Christoph Schonborn, Luiji Gioia, a Benedictine monk, and Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby.  When I am finally finished writing my testimony and sharing it with you, as well as posting all the information I intend to share with you from the documents of Vatican ll and the Council of Trent, you will then clearly see (at least I hope and pray you will) why we should be very concerned for those who follow the teachings of Steven Furtick, as well as Bill Hybels, and others who claim to be Christians, yet get involved with religious movements aimed at uniting together, and slowly laying aside sound Biblical doctrine.

Below you will find some very important information that I ask you to prayerfully consider checking out, so you will be well informed and not be led astray by becoming involved in the Alpha Course.

CECIL ANDREWS – ALPHAATTEND OR AVOID?  PART 1 OF 2

THE BEREAN CALL ‘WHAT ABOUT THE ALPHA COURSE?’

In the following video, you will hear Steven Furtick say that he is…

“…so honored to be a speaker at this year’s HTB Leadership Conference.”

I have seen pictures of Steven Furtick and his beautiful family, and have prayed for them as well.  However, to see him (and many other prominent Christian leaders ) getting involved with movements such as the Alpha Course which present teachings that are contrary to sound Biblical doctrine, is very disturbing and clearly indicates a lack of Biblical discernment.  A pastor is held accountable to God concerning what they teach and how they protect their flock, in spite of many pastors who reject the fact that they are to be shepherds who are to feed the Word of God to their congregations.  And those who follow after Steven Furtick, (instead of following Christ) and who do not test what S F says and does in light of Scripture, (as God’s Word clearly shows us we are to do –Acts 17:11) will very likely be led into getting involved with the Alpha Course when they see that Steven Furtick, their pastor, is a part of Nicky Gumbel’s Holy Trinity Brompton Leadership Conference.

Also, if James MacDonald continues to highly praise Steven Furtick, and not make the people who attend Harvest  aware of the dangers of the Alpha Course, (which I hope James is aware of) he will also be guilty again of failing to protect his sheep from false teachers. 

Whether a Christian is a pastor, a teacher, or simply a repentant follower of Jesus Christ who places their trust only in the finished work of Christ on the cross, and rests in the fact that we are saved by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone, we are all to be Bereans and test things in light of Scripture.

Steven Furtick’s choice to be a part of Nicky Gumbel’s Leadership Conference, is a decision that could possibly influence many to get involved with the Alpha Course.  And in so doing, he will be held responsible for any who are led  into spiritual deception.  (Mark 9:42)

In the following video some of the disturbing comments you will hear is… Nicky Gumbel saying to all the leaders in attendance,

“This is a conference with a purpose.  And the purpose is to see the transformation of this nation.”

You will also hear Christine Caine say, 

“We’re leaders… in the kingdom of God!  “...you and I are personally responsible for the evangelization of planet earth before the second coming of Jesus.”

At the  2:32 mark you will also hear Judah Smith say, concerning Catholic monk, Luigi Gioia, 

“When I read his emails it’s like reading an epistle from Paul.”

RELATED SCRIPTURES

“If anyone causes one of these little ones-those who believe in Me–to stumble, it would be better for them if a large millstone were hung around their neck and they were thrown into the sea.” (Mark 9:42)

“Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly .” (James 3:1)

“Therefore I declare to you today that I am innocent of the blood of all men.  For I have not hesitated to proclaim to you the whole will of God.  Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers.  Be shepherds of the church of God, which He bought with His own blood.  I now that after I leave , savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock.  Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them.  Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears.” (Acts 20:26-31)

Unfortunately, time does not permit me to express all my concerns to you in detail about the Alpha Course, and why seeing Steven Furtick (and so many other professing Christian leaders) getting involved with it sets off loud alarms in my discernment detection system and raises large red flags before my eyes, so please consider reading the information below so you can learn much more.

MORE IMPORTANT INFORMATION ON THE ALPHA COURSE

THE DANGERS OF THE ALPHA COURSE

THE ECUMENICAL COMPROMISE OF THE ALPHA COURSE

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UPDATED MONDAY MAY 13TH – VIDEO OF FIRST SESSION

PLEASE BE SURE TO TEST ALL THAT IS SAID IN LIGHT OF SCRIPTURE! (ACTS 17:11)

ARCHBISHOP JUSTIN WELBY, CHRIS HYMAN, AND BILL HYBELS

YOU CAN WATCH ‘LIVE’ ON MAy 18th AND 19th AT  LINK BELOW

8:38A.M. LIVE NOW!! SPEAKING NOW…ROMAN CATHOLIC, PATRICK LENCIONI, ON…

‘THE IMPORTANCE OF A CULTURAL LEADER/ SERVANT LEADERSHIP’

10:34a.m. LIVE NOW!! SPEAKING – PETE GREIG-DIRECTOR OF PRAYER AT HTB AND FOUNDER OF 24/7 PRAYER.  HIS BOOKS INCLUDE ‘RED MOON RISING’ AND ‘GOD ON MUTE’ 

UP NEXT WILL BE NICKY GUMBEL

**LIVE!! 5/18th AND 19th CLICK HERE TO WATCH>>HTB LEADERSHIP CONFERENCE 2013<<**

WILL BE ADDING VIDEOS OF UPCOMING SESSIONS AS THEY BECOME AVAILABLE

(NOT SURE HOW LONG THESE VIDEOS WILL BE AVAILABLE TO WATCH)

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SESSION 2 PATRICK LENCIONI AND PETE GREIG

In this video, starting at 1:55:50, you will hear Pete Greig endorse not only personal revelations from God, but also speaks of Henri Nouwen, having a ‘secret place’ with God, quotes Eugene Peterson, promotes Mark Batterson’s unbiblical form of prayer in his book, ‘The Circle Maker,’ and he also encourages the unbiblical and mystical form of prayer known as ‘Lectio Divina.’

Clearly, Pete Greig is being led by his feelings and seeking experiences to connect with God, and encouraging those who listen to him to do the same.  Gone is the reading the Word of God in context as the Biblical way to hear from God and to get to know Him personally.  So much more could be said, but I was hoping to write Part 1 of my testimony today, but wanted to comment on the HTB Leadership Conference, and to post these videos for all of you, and to urge you all to please make sure you test things that people say (who claim to speak for God) against the truth of God’s Word.  (1 Thessalonians 5:21,22, Acts 17:11) So many Christians are being led astray by these unbiblical, mystical, and even occultic practices that are being promoted by many so-called Christian leaders today.

INFORMATION FOR YOU

SACRED READING (LECTIO DIVINA) BY PASTOR GARY GILLEY

THE INFLUENCE OF CHRISTIAN MYSTICS MORTON KELSEY AND

JOHN WIMBER ON THE ALPHA COURSE

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SESSION THREE – NICKY GUMBEL (LAST SESSION FOR TODAY)

In this video you will hear Nicky Gumbel share how John Wimber prayed for him to receive the ‘Holy Spirit.’  Test what he says in light of Scripture.

INFORMATION ON THE TORONTO ‘BLESSING,’ JOHN WIMBER, AND MORE

TORONTO: ANTICS AND HERETICS – CECIL ANDREWS PART 1 OF 2

INFORMATION ON NICKY GUMBEL AND ALPHA IN PART 2 STARTING APPROXIMATELY @44:22

CECIL ANDREWS PART 1 OF 2 ‘TORONTO: THE FACTS

SHOCKING DOCUMENTARY PART 1 OF 3

FALSE SPIRITS INVADE THE CHURCH – KUNDALINI WARNING

AS YOU CAN SEE BY THE ‘QUICK CAPTURE’ OF THE SCHEDULE FOR TOMORROW’S HTBLEADERSHIP CONFERENCE, STEVEN FURTICK WILL BE SPEAKING.  AGAIN, PLEASE TEST HIS MESSAGE (AND ALL OTHERS) IN LIGHT OF SCRIPTURE.  I WILL ADD VIDEOS OF TOMORROW’S SESSIONS WHEN THEY BECOME AVAILABLE.

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TUESDAY MAY 14th DAY 2

Again, I urge you to test all that will be said and done against the truth of God’s Word!

SESSION 1

PATRICK LENCIONI, CARDINAL CHRISTOPH SCHONBORN, AND ELEANOR MUMFORD

SESSION 2

STEVEN FURTICK AND DANIEL HO

SESSION 3

Thank you very much for stopping by! And thank you very much for taking time out of your busy day to read some of my posts and poems.

God bless you!

~Mary Dalke/Living4HisGlory

**UPDATED 1:13P.M.  1/13/13**  ADDED LINKS TO ‘BIBLICAL ANALYSIS BY ‘CHRIS ROSEBROUGH- FIGHTING FOR THE FAITH’ OF JAMES MACDONALD’S ‘VERTICAL CHURCH MESSAGE’ BELOW

**UPDATED 8:45  p.m. 10/10/12** RESURGENCE CONFERENCE PROMOTIONAL VIDEOS BELOW

CLICK HERE TO WATCH HARVEST BIBLE CHAPEL ELGIN’S ‘EPHESIAN SERVICE>>Ephesians Multiple Speakers, | July 28- 29, 2012 From the Elgin Campus THEN WATCH THE FOLLOWING VIDEO

God’s Word is extremely important for a person to read so that one might not only come to the understanding of the fact that we are all wretched and depraved sinners and can never earn our way into heaven by our own righteous deeds (Romans 10:3, Galatians 2:21, Ephesians Philippians 3:9) which are like filthy rags to God (Isaiah 64:6), but also so that we might come to discover the love and mercy of God presented to us in the gospel. (John 3:16,17, Romans 5:8, 1 John 4:9,10 Titus 3:4-7) For those of us who will admit that we are nothing but wretched sinners fully deserving of the wrath of God, and will repent (turn from our sin) and receive the complete atoning work that Jesus Christ accomplished for us — when He bore our sins and took God’s full wrath intended for us upon Himself when He died in our place on the cross — we can be fully forgiven for all our sins –no matter what we have done.

God has also given us His Word to protect us from being spiritually deceived. We are told to ‘examine the Scriptures daily to see if what is being said is true,’ (Acts 17:11) and to ‘test all things and hold on to the good, and to avoid every kind of evil.’ (1 Thessalonians 5:21,22) Addressing the disciples questions, about ‘the sign of His coming and the end of the age,’ the first thing Jesus said was, “Watch out that no one deceives you.” (Matthew 24:4) There are numerous unbiblical, mystical practices being promoted in many churches today, and some Christians are being led into spiritual deception without even realizing it. Contemplative Prayer, Lectio Divina, soaking prayer, Ignatian Practices, and walking ‘prayer’ labyrinths, are just a few of some of the many occultic practices being introduced into the church and are being accepted without question by many unsuspecting Christians as ‘new ways to connect with God.’ (Search APPRISING MINISTRIES, CHRISTIAN RESEARCH NETWORK,   DO NOT BE SURPRISED, LIGHTHOUSE TRAILS RESEARCH, and you can also read the information I linked to on my WARNING YOU WITH TEARS poem, and especially all the information and videos I added on AN ANCHOR FOR MY SOUL.’

Is it possible that Satan could use the reading of God’s Word — such as in Lectio Divina — as a way to lead many Christians into spiritual deception? Scripture clearly shows us in Matthew 4 and Luke 4 in the account of Jesus being tempted by the devil in the desert, that the devil knows God’s Word very well:

“The devil led Him to Jerusalem and had Him stand on the highest point of the temple. “If You are the Son of God,” he said, “throw Yourself down from here. For it is written: ‘ “He will command His angels concerning You to guard You carefully; they will lift You up in their hands, so that You will not strike Your foot against a stone.’ “

God’s Word warns us in 1 Peter 5:8 to…

“Be self-controlled and alert. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.”

So since Christians are warned that ‘our enemy’ is seeking to devour us,’ what better way could he choose than to use a way that seems so innocent as the reading of God’s Word as a means to lead us astray and into spiritual deception and the occult. In Lectio Divina, God’s Word is read, and then a time of silence follows, and people are told to ‘be still, and let God — or God’s Word — speak to you.’  That’s where the danger lies; sitting in silence and waiting for God to speak, when in fact He has already spoken all that we need to hear and to know, and it is recorded in His Word, the Bible. God’s Word tells us in Hebrews Chapter 1:1,2:

“In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days He has spoken to us by His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things and through whom He made the universe.”

Everything we need to know from God has been recorded for us in His Word, and spoken through His one and only Son, Jesus Christ. There are no new revelations from God; the canon of Scripture is now closed. Leaving our mind still allows us to hear from our own imaginations, or even from demonic spirits just waiting to speak something to us to lead us astray.

This past weekend, July 28th and 29th, Harvest Bible Chapel Elgin, had, what they referred to as, an ‘Ephesian Service.’ (Watch video at first link above). This service was viewed by the Aurora, Chicago North, Crystal Lake, Niles, North Shore, and Rolling Meadows campuses, as well. There were six speakers, each taking turns reading one chapter. Then they ended the service with a ‘Time Of Meditation.’ Although I was not there because of the fact that after attending Harvest Bible Chapel Rolling Meadows for almost 15 years, I left right after the Elephant Room 2 Conference (please consider reading my post WARNING YOU WITH TEARS for details that I continue to update when time allows) I can tell you that this ‘Ephesian Service’ is not the first time that Scripture was read out loud (though not a complete book of the Bible, as in the ‘Ephesian Service’) and then a time of silence followed. Although this could have been just an innocent time of reflection on God’s Word,it greatly concerns me because of the fact that James MacDonald has said that ‘Beth Moore’s Bible studies are “pretty phenominal…” (as you will hear him say in the following video)

…and her Bible studies have been a part of Harvest for many years. Therefore it should not come as a surprise if this misuse of God’s Word that Beth Moore is involved in, known as ‘Lectio Divina,’ could possibly be starting to take place at Harvest. (Compare the very first video above where Beth Moore is reading the Scriptures, to Harvest Elgin’s Ephesians service at the very first link above, and notice the similarities. Then please read this information on Lectio Divina, written by Pastor Gary Gilley at Southern View Chapel: SACRED READING LECTIO DIVINA as well as the information here on Beth Moore written by Erin Benziger from ‘Do Not Be Surprised.’ 

Because of the high view that James MacDonald has of Beth Moore, and also because Richard Foster’s book, ‘Celebration Of Discipline’ and Gary Thomas’ book ‘Sacred Marriage,’ are both on Harvest’s ‘recommended reading list,’ and both books promote ‘Contemplative Prayer,’ could it be possible that James MacDonald now sees ‘Lectio Divina’ and ‘Contemplative Prayer’ as something Biblical and is beginning to incorporate these practices into the services, therefore unknowingly leading those who attend into these mystical practices not realizing they are unbiblical?  Or does he see these practices as some other Christians do; revived monastic practices done by mystics in the past, and viewed now as ‘new ways to connect with God,’ and knowingly leading those who attend into mysticism, not realizing these practices are occultic in nature?

Further concerns come also due to the fact that in the ‘5G prayer guide’ (that I received on the night of October 5, 2011 when I attended the Vision Night at the Rolling Meadows campus, as did all who attended a ‘5G Vision meeting’) there are many ‘prayer exercises’ presented in this booklet for attendees of Harvest to do in order to ‘prepare their heart for what God desires to do in them personally and as a church,’ as stated on Page 3 in the booklet. Here is one example of a ‘prayer exercise’ that is found on page 37:

1. Prayer Exercise: Pray God’s Word. Praying God’s Word affirms God’s truth, aligns our prayers with His will, and expands our prayer language. Praying Scripture is not as difficult as you may think. Here are several ways to pray scripture. You can repeat one of the prayers in the Bible word-for-word. The Lord’s Prayer is an obvious example. But you can also pray a psalm, one of the prayers of Paul, and even passages from Revelation.”  (Emphasis is mine).

Doesn’t God’s Word warn us about ‘vain repititions?’

“But when ye pray, use not vain repititions, as the heathen do: for they think they shall be heard for their much speaking.” (Matthew 6:7)

The Lord’s Prayer — or any part of Scripture for that matter — was not given to us as something to repeat as a prayer, but as how we should approach God and then make our requests known to Him. That is how James MacDonald once explained the Lord’s Prayer to us.

One can only wonder what is happening at Harvest these days especially since Elephant Room 2, when T D Jakes was declared as having embraced the Biblical understanding of the Trinity even though he used Modalistic language when he explained how he now understands the Trinity, and T D Jakes was not confronted concerning the ‘prosperity gospel’ that he continues to preach.

**ADDED 8/20/12** Due to the concerns that many have because of the Elephant Room 2 conference, please consider watching this new video>> NO CO EVER: EPISODE 1   from ‘NO COMPROMISE RADIO,’ as Mike Abendroth leads James White, Carl Trueman, and Phil Johnson in an excellent discussion about what happened — and what should have happened — during Elephant Room 2 concerning T D Jakes, and the importance of sound doctrine.

I am increasingly growing concerned for all who attend Harvest, which is the main purpose for this post; this was meant to be  a strong warning written to alert those who attend Harvest.  Please pray for James MacDonald, all those in leadership, and especially for all the people who attend Harvest; pray discernment, wisdom, a desire to search the Scriptures for truth, and that they would be made aware of the danger of these unbiblical practices by searching the above mentioned sites, or you can click on the many ministries in the side bar that I personally search to find information on a person in question or to help me better understand the many practices in question.

In spite of the many warnings those who attend Harvest have received in their sermons lately –as when Jeff Donaldson told them how they should not read any blogs that are “tearing down some church or tearing down some pastor,” — (as Scott William Bryant of ‘Bloodstained Ink’ reveals to us in his post, HARVEST BIBLE CHAPEL: IS DISSENT THE SAME AS REBELLION?)  they (and all Christians) need to be made aware of the danger of partaking in these occultic practices — if indeed that is what is beginning to take place at Harvest — no matter how innocent these practices may appear to be.

**(ADDED AUGUST 20th 2012)**

I am very sorry for the delay in updating this post by adding more information to verify my concerns, but due to previous computer problems — as well as my work schedule and trying to keep my priorities in order — I have not had very much free time to complete this post as desired.  I have vacation time coming soon, and, Lord willing, will complete this then.  So for now, please consider reading the important information at the links posted below in my reply to Pastor Dan McGhee’s comment.  This is some of the information I had intended to add to this post, and will help you see not only the valid reasons I have for entitling this post with such strong words, but also why I have concerns about the recent ‘Ephesian Service.’

SOME ‘WHAT IFS’ FOR YOU TO CONSIDER

(Here’s one to start with; more to come when time allows).

1)  Since James MacDonald is developing a close relationship with Perry Noble not only because of the Elephant Room Conferences, but also because James has been a part of Perry Noble’s New Spring Church Conferences, and since Perry Noble has recently told the readers of his blog in the ‘DIALOGUE WITH GOD’ portion…

“When you have some uninterrupted time, sit quietly with a pen and paper and wait.  Then write what you hear during the silence.  This sounds like a simple task, but for many of us it is a real challenge.  Discipline yourself to set aside a time of stillness before the Lord to hear God speak.  He will speak right to your heart.”  SOURCE   (Emphasis is mine).  (To learn more, please consider reading this article by Erin Benziger of DO NOT BE SURPRISED, entitled  NEW SPRING CHURCH BLOG: “WRITE WHAT YOU HEAR DURING THE SILENCE”)

‘WHAT IF’ it’s only a matter of time until James MacDonald will encourage those who attend Harvest to ‘be still before the Lord and write down what they hear God speak to them?’  This is a New Age practice known as ‘automatic writing,’ where the person sits quietly and allows the ‘spirits’ to speak to them, and they record what they hear being spoken to them.  This is also how the still very popular ‘Christian’ devotional book, ‘GOD CALLING’ was written back in the 1930’s, and you can read about it here .”

ADDED SEPT. 6, 2012…

2) Since James MacDonald has confirmed that there will definitely be an ELEPHANT ROOM 3, (you can read about it here ) in spite of all the controversy that took place over TD Jakes being one of the speakers at E R 2, and especially because of his comments during that conference that led people to believe TD Jakes is still a Modalist, who will be the new speakers chosen that will attract a large turnout for ER3? (**UPDATE** Seems there has been a change of plans, and it appears now that there will not be another ‘Elephant Room Conference’ –at least not in the near future).

Originally I was going to say it would be Rick Warren, because he was going to be one of the speakers at Perry Noble’s New Spring Conference, (in which James MacDonald is a part of, and this conference is taking place even now as I type this.  You can read Erin Benziger’s insights into what she sees emerging in her post she wrote today, 9/6/12, entitled  PERRY NOBLE’S 2012 NEWSPRING LEADERSHIP CONFERENCE AND THE NEW EMERGING NEW EVANGELICAL MAGISTERIUM )  Rick Warren, however, cancelled out of the conference because of a family issue.

Rick Warren seems to be showing up at many of these conferences with the ‘new tribe‘ that has formed during the Elephant Room Conferences.  People such as Perry Noble, Steven Furtick, and James MacDonald, are seen together at almost all these conferences, along with others of concern (will add information in near future)  Personally, I think it’s only a matter of time before we see Rick Warren as one of the guest speakers at an ‘Elephant Room Conference.’  As James MacDonald’s relationship and friendship grows stronger through his interaction with Rick Warren during these conferences, it seems almost certain.

I remember reading James MacDonald’s blog a couple of years ago.  One person was trying to warn James about Rick Warren, and his reply in part was, ‘Oh pllllease…’ James completely dismissed this person’s valid warning, so it would not surprise me at all if Rick Warren is announced as a guest speaker in the near future.  I know that’s very hard for some of us to believe, but how many of us would have thought the day would actually come when James would speak highly of, and become involved with, TD Jakes, a known Modalist and prosperity preacher, when James strongly spoke against false teachers and prosperity preachers in the not too distant past?

IF YOU ARE UNAWARE OF THE CONCERNS MANY HAVE ABOUT RICK WARREN, PLEASE CONSIDER WATCHING THE FOLLOWING FOUR PART VIDEO SERIES

 What if Rick Warren is a part of the Elephant Room Conference in the near future?  Are you aware of what he teaches, and the mystical practices he endorses as part of his ‘Daniel Plan?’  Will you as a member or attendee of Harvest Bible Chapel rise up and say, “Enough is enough” if indeed this happens?

3)Since James MacDonald has said many times — during sermons (such as in his sermon dated June 10th 2012) and elsewhere — that he meets with Bill Hybels for lunch…

…what if Bill Hybels will become one of the newest guest speakers of the upcoming Elephant Room 3 Conference and becomes part of the ‘new tribe?’  Are you aware of the fact that Bill Hybels has Brian McLaren — one of the main leaders of the ‘Emergent Church’ — speak at Willowcreek quite often?  Are you willing to stand up and let your voices be heard before it’s too late? 

Rick Warren has endorsed James MacDonald’s new book, ‘Vertical Church,’ and had this to say:

“I didn’t just read this book–I savored it.  It’s packed with great content that every pastor, whether rookie or veteran, will benefit from.  I’m so grateful my friend James MacDonald invested the time to help us all, because it is a message of hope for every church.”SOURCE

You can read what others have to say about ‘VERTICAL CHURCH,’ such as Bill Hybels, who says,  “Vertical Church will force you to think fresh thoughts about the future of the church…”  as well as Mark Driscoll, who is identified as “Preaching and Vision Pastor,”  and once again, Rick Warren adds his endorsement, and you can see it all >>here.

Also, concerning James MacDonald’s ‘Vertical Church’ book, it has been made known to those who attend Harvest Bible Chapel through their July 28th29th >>HARVEST ANNOUNCEMENT<<VIDEO that… “People are freaking out about this book…Pastor Rick Warren, Pastor Mark Driscoll, Pastor Bill Hybels…”   If James indeed had concerns about Rick Warren and Bill Hybels, they would certainly not draw attention to these men in the promotion of the Vertical Church book, would they? 

The above ‘What if’s’ are some very possible things that could take place in the near future.  These are just some words of warnings to all of you who attend Harvest, (or any church, for that matter) so that you will be alert and aware of the possible spiritual dangers that may lie ahead.

Please become informed of the many spiritual deceptions that are taking place in the church today, so that you will not slowly be led into deception in these last days.  Above all, pray for discernment, read your Bible and test every message from all who claim to speak God’s Word; ‘examine the Scriptures daily to see if what is being said is true.’  (Acts 17:11)

SOME GOOD BOOKS

  • DECEIVED ON PURPOSE – Warren Smith, former New Ager reveals the dangers of Rick Warren’s Purpose Driven Church (You can read a review on this book by Tim Challies here).

     
  • FAITH UNDONE – Roger Oakland.  The Emerging Church – a new reformation, or an end-time deception.  (Read about it here).

  • THIS LITTLE CHURCH WENT TO MARKET – Pastor Gary Gilley “…a call for the church to return to its Scriptural roots.”  (Read about that book and others by Pastor Gary Gilley, here.   You can also read many excellent articles he has written exposing mysticism, here).

SOME CONCERNS

When James MacDonald goes on his ‘Vertical Church Tour’ promoting his book, ‘Vertical Church’ from August 8th to October 3rd, (see video here)  >>One. Big. Announcement. Check out the latest information on Vertical Church , who will fill the pulpit during his very long absence? **UPDATE 9/6/12** So far, Rick Donald and Jeff Donaldson have been standing in for James MacDonald; was concerned of the possibility that Steven Furtick or Mark Driscoll may speak. **UPDATE 10/10/12 Craig Groeschel filled in for James on September 30th.

Has James somehow lost his awareness of his main responsibility which is to care for and watch over his sheep, whom God has entrusted to him?  “Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers.  Be shepherds of the church of God, which He bought with His own blood.”  (Acts 20:28)

Why all the emphasis lately in James’ sermons and especially in his ‘VERTICAL CHURCH’ book on ‘God’s glory coming down?’ Didn’t God’s glory already come down when Jesus came to this earth?  (John 1:14, 2:11, Luke 9:32, Hebrews 1:3)  The only others in ‘ministry’ who focus on ‘God’s glory,’ are unbiblical ‘preachers’ such as Todd Bentley, and Bill Johnson of Bethel Church in Redding CA, (others could also be mentioned).  Just be cautious, Harvesters.  Don’t be led astray into seeking after ‘experiences’ with God.  Remember that Jesus said that,  “A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a miraculous sign!”  (Matthew 12:39)

**ADDED 9/11/12** As stated above, Rick Warren has been part of the many conferences that James has been attending lately, and the newest one is ‘The Resurgence Conference,’ which will take place at ‘Mariners Church in Irvine, CA on October 9th and 10th 2012.  Speakers and topics are as follows:

  • Rick Warren – INCREASING INFLUENCE

  • Nick Vujicic – BUILDING ENDURANCE

  • Craig Groeschel – CREATING A CULTURE OF INNOVATION

  • Greg Laurie – PREACHING JESUS

  • Miles McPherson – SERVING YOUR CITY

  • Mark Driscoll – MAKING DISCIPLES

  • Lecrae – ENGAGING CULTURE

  • James MacDonald – INCREASING RESOURCES SOURCE

**10/10/12** VIDEOS PROMOTING THE RESURGENCE CONFERENCE OCTOBER 9th & 10th 2012

In light of the information you learned about Rick Warren from the videos above, does the thought of having Rick Warren at the Resurgence Conference concern you?

Does Mark Driscoll give us  good reasons for having James MacDonald at the Resurgence Conference?  Would Paul the apostle be described in this way?  Isn’t God the one who grows the church?  (Acts 2:47) (1 Corin. 3:7) It seems for some, that church has sadly become simply an “organization.”

It is very disconcerting to see just how ‘dedicated’ — shall we say– that James has become to get the message of ‘VERTICAL CHURCH’ out, as you will see in the following video…

**ADDED 1/13/13**BIBLICAL ANALYSIS OF JAMES MACDONALD’S ‘VERTICAL CHURCH MESSAGE’ – BY CHRIS ROSEBROUGH – ‘FIGHTING FOR THE FAITH’

VERTICAL CHURCH DEBRIEF -1

VERTICAL CHURCH DEBRIEF-2

VERTICAL CHURCH FINAL DEBRIEF

PLEASE continue to pray for James as well as the other pastors and elders, and especially for all who attend Harvest.  God bless you and thank you very much for taking the time to read the latest concerns I have about what is taking place at my former church, Harvest Bible Chapel Rolling Meadows.  Please keep praying and don’t give up hope, Harvesters! 

Soon I am going to be bringing this post to an end by wrapping up my thoughts on this, as well as on the introduction to the poem that I wrote to try and express my concerns to those of you who attend Harvest, entitled, WARNING YOU WITH TEARS in the near future.  There comes a time when we must move ahead.  This whole thing has been very spiritually draining for me, as I know it is for many of you who are still attending.  If you find yourself unable to enter into worship with all your heart when you are at Harvest, or if you find yourself in need of analyzing each and every sermon that is preached (as I did before I left) beyond just being a good Acts 17:11 Berean, and if you are unable to sit and enjoy hearing God’s Word being preached when you are there, (maybe with good reason) then it may be time for you to move on and begin your search for another church, as well.  We all need to have our focus on Christ, and not allow the ‘enemy of our souls’ to drain us of our joy and strength, which can cause us to be rendered powerless and unable to be used by God when an opportunity arises for us to share His love and truth and words of encouragement with someone He may bring our way. 

I may have left Harvest, but my heart is still filled with concern for all of you.  Pray and think about all of this.  God will give you His strength, wisdom, and courage to do what He may now be calling you to do.  God bless you.  Praying for all of you.

YOU MAY ALSO BE INTERESTED IN READING:

AN ANCHOR FOR MY SOUL Poem I wrote when I was discouraged and close to leaving Harvest

LIKE SHEEP WITHOUT A SHEPHERD  Poem I wrote right after I left Harvest

WARNING YOU WITH TEARS  Poem I wrote mainly to warn those of you at Harvest