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“Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” (2 Timothy 2:15 KJV)

Welcome to another post in the category of posts entitled, TEACHING THURSDAY.’ Lord willing, about once a month or so, on Thursdays, I will be posting either a video, an article, or some form of teaching  in which a *Biblically sound teacher *(Biblically sound because what they say and teach lines up with the truth of God’s Word,  Acts 17:11) will either expose an unbiblical movement, teaching, or a practice that is leading many Christians astray, or present some type of Biblical teaching to help you grow in a deeper understanding of God’s Word on different topics. Some of these teachings may be essentials of the Christian faith, and others may be things that we can debate but not divide over.

It is my hope and prayer that by presenting these teachings to you, many more Christians will not only come to realize the importance of testing the words of men (and women) against the truth of God Word so they will not be deceived, but also it is my hope and prayer that many Christians will come to know the joy of learning God’s Word.

Now on with today’s TEACHING THURSDAY:

Today I’d like to share a very good teaching with you by Pastor Bob DeWaay of CRITICAL ISSUES COMMENTARY. I’m sure that many of you will agree that we live in a time when God’s Word is under attack more than ever before! Therefore, we need to depend even more on the guidance of the Holy Spirit in order to help us know the meaning of a passage of Scripture so that we will not become deceived or led astray by those who are attempting to change God’s Word. Especially in light of the fact that many pastors are promoting Christian leaders who are part of the Emergent Church Movement. For example, Bill Hybels of Willow Creek Church in the Chicago area, promotes men such as Brian McLaren, Erwin McManus, Rob Bell, and many other Christian leaders who are deeply involved in the Emergent Church Movement, and are attempting to change how Christians should view Scripture.

Have you ever been in a “Bible study” where instead of the person who is  leading the class teaching God’s Word in context, they instruct the class to take turns sharing with everyone else what a certain verse is saying to them?  I have. And let me tell you that can lead to many different answers and a lot of confusion!

In the video below, Bob DeWaay discusses Postmodern Theology and gives us some excellent Biblical principles on how to examine these teachings in light of Scripture. He also helps us to realize how this type of Postmodern thinking can lead Christians away from the trustworthiness of Scripture as being God’s infallible Word, which is also unchanging truth –regardless of how drastically our culture is changing! (When the rest of the teachings in this series become available, I will add the videos to this post).

Here is the video description:

“Postmodern Theology casts serious doubts about the ability of human languages to validly transmit meaning from authors to readers in a different culture. This means that the meaning of the Biblical writers is obscured to modern readers. To solve this supposed problem, postmodern theologians claim that the reader determines the meaning of Scripture. In this session, Bob DeWaay refutes their claims and upholds the Reformation doctrine of Sola Scriptura.”

RELATED SCRIPTURES

“All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof for correction, for instruction in righteousness.” (2 Timothy 3:16)

“For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.” (Hebrews 4:12)

“But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in My name, He shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.” (John 14:26)

“But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, He shall testify of Me.” (John 15:26)

“Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on Me, believeth not on Me, but on Him that sent Me. And he that seeth Me seeth Him that sent Me. I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on Me should not abide in darkness. And if any man hear My words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. He that rejecteth Me, and receiveth not My words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. For I have not spoken of Myself; but the Father which sent Me, He gave Me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. And I know that His commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto Me, so I speak.” (John 12:44-50)

Is not my word like as a fire? saith the LORD; and like a hammer that breaketh the rock in pieces?” (Jeremiah 23:29)

“For I am the LORD I change not.” (Malachi 3:6)

RELATED VIDEOS

 

DEBATE BETWEEN DOUG PAGITT AND BOB DEWAAY – EMERGENT CHURCH AND POSTMODERN SPIRITUALITY

ELLIOTT NESCH OF HOLY BIBLE PROPHECY – EMERGENT/EMERGING CHURCH DOCUMENTARY FILLED WITH A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION

PASTOR  JAY PETERS – EMERGENT CHURCH 101 – THESE VIDEOS GIVES INFORMATION CONCERNING WHAT THE EMERGENT CHURCH IS, AND WHO ALL THE MAIN PEOPLE INVOLVED IN IT ARE. THESE VIDEOS INCLUDE ACTUAL VIDEO AND AUDIO CLIPS OF THE MOST WELL KNOWN LEADERS IN THE EMERGENT CHURCH MOVEMENT.  – “SOMETHING IS EMERGING, BUT IT ISN’T THE TRUTH.” ~PASTOR JAY PETERS

Thank you very much for stopping by and taking time out of your busy day to read some of my posts and poems.

God Bless You

~Mary/Living4HisGlory

 

UPDATE:

LORD WILLING, I WILL BE WORKING ON ONE OF MY FORMER POSTS, MOODY RADIO’S ‘MIDDAY CONNECTION’ PROGRAM – CANCELLED OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS, AND I HOPE TO HAVE IT COMPLETED BY MONDAY EVENING –LORD WILLING.

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UPDATED 5/6/15 I enlarged and darkened the print to make this post easier for you to read on my new blog design. Lord willing, I will be doing this to all my previous posts, as well, when time allows).

INTRODUCTION

Well, I was planning on spending the day writing my testimony.  However, before I began writing I happened to see this tweet made on Twitter, (by an ‘unnamed person’ who will remain anonymous for their protection) that James MacDonald has informed everyone of the fact that Matt Chandler will be preaching at Harvest this weekend, May 25th and 26th 2013:

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The sermon that Matt preached at Steven Furtick’s 2012 Code Orange Revival (which is the video I posted above) was the only Biblically solid message presented at this ‘revival.’ Matt not only gave a clear presentation of the gospel, but he also gave a much-needed rebuke and correction to Steven Furtick and others at this ‘revival’ who were focusing and praising  themselves and their ministries, rather than repenting, preaching God’s Word, and focusing on and praising God. Those are the true signs of  revival! If you’re interested, I encourage you to listen to his message, when time allows. 

I rejoiced while listening to Matt’s message because he was the only one who presented solid Biblical truth at this ‘revival.’ In spite of the fact that many of us have valid concerns about him, he was still like a light shining in the darkness that night. When he spoke the truths of God’s Word, it exposed the pride and arrogance that was in the hearts of these other pastors as they spoke and praised one another. However, I found it necessary to write this short post in order to warn all of you at Harvest Bible Chapel Rolling Meadows that Matt Chandler promotes mysticism; unbiblical, and even occultic practices that are said to draw a person closer to God. When something other than reading the Word of God in context is suggested to a Christian as a means to have a deeper, more intimate relationship with God, consider it a BIG red flag!

On Matt Chandler’s Village Church website, you will see a list of books on their ‘Recommended Reading’ list. They also have the following disclaimer posted:

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However, as a shepherd who is supposed to watch over and protect his sheep from the many wolves in sheep’s clothing, if Matt does “not endorse or believe all that is written in these books,” wouldn’t you think that he would protect his sheep and not even consider adding these books to their ‘recommended reading’ list? But because of the fact that he promotes ‘contemplative prayer’ as shown in the article posted by Pastor Ken Silva of Apprising Ministries, (see link posted below under ‘Further Reading’) it is clear that he in fact does endorse and believe in mysticism and contemplative prayer.

Here are some examples of the books that promote mysticism that are included on Matt Chandler’s Village Church website on their ‘Recommended Reading’ list. On page 12 the book ‘Sacred Marriage’ by Gary Thomas is listed:

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Besides writing the book, ‘Sacred Marriage,’ Gary Thomas has also written the book, ‘Sacred Pathways’ in which he says the following which is posted on ‘Lighthouse Trails’ website and ‘quick captured’ for you below:

Capture Gary Thomas Lighthouse TrailsTo continue reading this article and other good information, continuing to test all you read in light of Scripture,  (Acts 17:11), click here.


Also on page 17 of Matt Chandler’s Village Church’s Recommended Reading list, another book, ‘The Ragamuffin Gospel’ written by Brennan Manning, who also promotes mysticism, is recommended:

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Here’s some information on Brennan Manning:

BEWARE OF WOLVES IN SHEEP’S CLOTHING – MIKE GENDRON

BRENNAN MANNING AND CONTEMPLATIVE PRAYER- LIGHTHOUSE TRAILS

In the following video, Pastor Joe Schimmel shares some serious concerns about Brennan Manning and his book ‘The Ragamuffin Gospel.’

All that to say: Harvest Bible attendees, beware of Matt Chandler! Test all you will hear him say against the truth of God’s Word. (Acts 17:11) Search these things out to see if these things are true, and please keep your eyes on Jesus and in His Word so you will never be led astray. I am praying for all of you.

SCRIPTURES FOR YOU TO REFLECT ON

“Now the Spirit speaketh expressly that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith , giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils…”      (1 Timothy 4:1)

“In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days He has spoken to us by His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, and through whom He made the universe.” (Hebrews 1:1,2)

“Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage–with great patience and careful instruction.  For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine.  Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.  They will turn their ears from the truth and turn aside to myths.” (2 Timothy 4:2-4)

“Be self-controlled and alert.  Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.” (1 Peter 5:8)

“Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures daily to see if what Paul said was true.” (Acts 17:11)

“Therefore I declare to you that I am innocent of the blood of all men.  For I have not hesitated to proclaim to you the whole will of God.  Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers.  Be shepherds of the church of God, which He bought with His own blood.  I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock.  Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them.  Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears.” (Acts 20:26-31)

FURTHER READING:

ADDED 6/25/15 WARNING YOU WITH TEARS WEDNESDAY – (MORE INFORMATION CONCERNING MATT CHANDLER)

5/25/13 MATT CHANDLER AND VILLAGE CHURCH PROMOTING CONTEMPLATIVE SPIRITUALITY -KEN SILVA ‘APPRISING MINISTRIES’

**ADDED 11/30/13**

CONCERNS ABOUT MATT CHANDLER ‘S THE VILLAGE CHURCH- ‘STEAK AND A BIBLE’

 PURPOSE DRIVEL: MATT CHANDLER, CALVINIST MYSTIC, DOESN’T BELIEVE IN SOLA SCRIPTURA

Not only are people concerned about Matt’s promotion of ‘mysticism/Contemplative Spirituality,’ but also there are many who are concerned about certain things that he teaches.  As you can see from the quick capture below of a portion of a review of Matt Chandler’s book ‘THE EXPLICIT GOSPEL,’ Pastor Gary Gilley of Southern View Chapel explains just one of the problems he finds in Matt’s book, and calls it what it is: “unbiblical.”

Capture Matt Chandler's Book 'The Explicit Gospel'

You can read Pastor Gary Gilley’s  full review of Matt’s book at the link below:

REVIEW OF MATT CHANDLER’S BOOK, ‘THE EXPLICIT GOSPEL’ – BY PASTOR GARY GILLEY

VIDEOS FOR YOU TO CONSIDER WATCHING THAT CONTAIN IMPORTANT INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED TO BE AWARE OF:

EXPERIENCING GOD THROUGH DECEITFUL MYSTICISM

FORMER CATHOLIC PRIEST RICHARD BENNETT AND JAMES SUNDQUIST

VOICES OF THE EMERGING CHURCH

THE REAL ROOTS OF THE EMERGENT CHURCH

CHURCH OF TARES

THE SUBMERGING CHURCH